For the Third Time, TPCi Reiterates More Pokemon TCG Product On the Way

Yaginku said:
Please, just actually go and ask someone who runs a local game store, or even a distributor if you have contact with them (you don't), about how much product they are getting from each set.
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+1, I've been in contact with the seller that helped me, and they've said they haven't had much product to get (a case of jt blister packs, a few booster boxes and a few etb's). Of course you have to factor in that they're a newer store, so allocation of product is restricted because of that, but it's been much lower than usual even with that factor applied. Demand is much higher than supply already, so holding it back to generate more is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. While they share some data about card, most of us are never gonna know the EXACT number that each set is getting printed at. Pokemon Company and Printers -> Distributors -> Online stores/ Retail -> Scalpers (sometimes or not at all) -> You. Thats the pokemon TCG version of farm to table

Sorry if I got some stuff wrong while typing this.
 
Yaginku said:
Yes, TPC shares some data about how many cards they print. For the entire year, from all the sets in that year. You're thinking they're printing every set equally?
Please, just actually go and ask someone who runs a local game store, or even a distributor if you have contact with them (you don't), about how much product they are getting from each set. There's a bunch of people in this thread who know nothing about this topic, talk reddit-level economics, and for what? To make yourself look stupid? To defend a multi-million-dollar company? Or maybe these 2-comment accounts are just here to defend their scalped positio
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Lol, literally picked up JT from my local shop this morning and talk to them about this kinda stuff all the time. You just couldn't be making it more apparent that you don't know what you're talking about

Either give evidence of this grand conspiracy other than "just look, bro! its hard to get hot sets, what other evidence do you need?" or stop wasting my time.
 
stray-snorlax said:
Lol, literally picked up JT from my local shop this morning and talk to them about this kinda stuff all the time. You just couldn't be making it more apparent that you don't know what you're talking about

Either give evidence of this grand conspiracy other than "just look, bro! its hard to get hot sets, what other evidence do you need?" or stop wasting my time.
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I mean they can adjust how much they're allocating for printing, just not in the extreme way others are saying there are. We're getting ample printing for all the sets, worse case scinario is dwindling the sets that will be going out of print (which wouldn't be until very close to oop I'm guessing)
 
stray-snorlax said:
This is a perfect example of someone passionately talking out of their rear.

Pokemon Company is printing at capacity in the US and has been for the past several years. In fact, Jon just mentioned on the last Poke Beach pod that when last reported, something like 20% of all Pokemon cards were printed in the year 2023. They be printin cards, son.

This conspiracy of holding back stock to create demand is always from people who have absolutely zero business sense and live on social media.
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Exactly, I wonder what they'll say when the card production meets the demand for the modern product. Their narrative will completely fall apart, if the pokemon company was that good at being able to purposely hold back supply they would've been doing so for the last 20 years of existence in perpetuity. But thats not how business works, I'm sure the items selling fast on the shelves gives some publicity but having no stock like 85% of the time on purpose makes no sense.
 
stray-snorlax said:
Lol, literally picked up JT from my local shop this morning and talk to them about this kinda stuff all the time. You just couldn't be making it more apparent that you don't know what you're talking about
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I'm glad a random conversation in some random store is enough to contradict dozens of different stores and suppliers. Glad we have it on the books.
stray-snorlax said:
conspiracy other than "just look, bro! its hard to get hot sets, what other evidence do you need?" or stop wasting my time.
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Why do obvious scalpers insist that it's some kind of "grand conspiracy", when it's literally the basics of TCG investing? TPCi has previously absolutely destroyed positions of scalpers with a random reprint of Roaring Skies, suddenly them having a control of the supply is some kind of conspiracy.
 
It’s not hard, make a pre order an actual pre order. Limit to one (like they did) and then let anyone order it who wants to. Close the pre order and take however long you need to print. Everyone wins. I will wait a year for msrp if need be
 
Bionicleforever12 said:
Exactly, I wonder what they'll say when the card production meets the demand for the modern product. Their narrative will completely fall apart, if the pokemon company was that good at being able to purposely hold back supply they would've been doing so for the last 20 years of existence in perpetuity. But thats not how business works, I'm sure the items selling fast on the shelves gives some publicity but having no stock like 85% of the time on purpose makes no sense.
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It switches to "trash set, why does Pokémon always print the garbage into the ground?" Whatever they can say to justify their heavy bags.
 
Yaginku said:
I'm glad a random conversation in some random store is enough to contradict dozens of different stores and suppliers. Glad we have it on the books.

Why do obvious scalpers insist that it's some kind of "grand conspiracy", when it's literally the basics of TCG investing? TPCi has previously absolutely destroyed positions of scalpers with a random reprint of Roaring Skies, suddenly them having a control of the supply is some kind of conspiracy.
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The fact that you framed your example as "Pokémon destroyed scalpers positions" tells me you're projecting motivations that are in no way reflective of reality.

Also, claiming I'm a scalper while using all the terminology that's used by people who view shiny cardboard as a performative asset is real rich.

Have fun securing your "position" in this lucrative "investment." I'm sure your closet full of sealed product hasn't contributed to any previous hype cycles that leaves store shelves bare. Nah, it's the grand conspiracy by one of the world's largest intellectual properties to make money by *not* selling product. You cracked it. Indeed, good to have on the books.

Or maybe it takes time to print shit.
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Yaginku said:
I'm glad a random conversation in some random store is enough to contradict dozens of different stores and suppliers. Glad we have it on the books.

Why do obvious scalpers insist that it's some kind of "grand conspiracy", when it's literally the basics of TCG investing? TPCi has previously absolutely destroyed positions of scalpers with a random reprint of Roaring Skies, suddenly them having a control of the supply is some kind of conspiracy.
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Nice straw man, no one said tpci doesnt have control of production of the product. Your conspiracy is they are purposely bottlenecking supply to push the market up to increase demand or something? Which makes no sense considering pokemon makes no more money from these resold products. To use the roaring skies as the example the pokemon company announced reprints of that set prior to reprinting it, tpci is literally doing this same exact thing for the prismatic items and even literally the pc etb for dr. The only difference here is the grand scale of the reprints have to magnitudes larger as to appeal to not just players but many short cited collectors as well as grifters who'll keep buying cards to flip until its not worth their time. 6 months is nothing logistically and over the 20 year span of the tcg. You gotta relax instead of calling everyone who disagrees with your baseless claims as scalpers, it doesnt support your argument.
 
It seems that market value for Journey Together seems to be dropping a fair amount, one reseller that was trying to hock off a $1,100-$1,200 valued JTE bundle at $2,500 and changed the price to $1,900 after 24 hours.

As to why scalpers seem to be dropping this set for a quick sale I can only assume that they're scared of JTE's pull rates, I'm seeing people SIRs like it's SVI base set again. If this isn't an aberration then TPCi may have actually paid attention to people's complaints and changed them back.

If these pull rates are the new norm for the TCG then neither scalpers nor investors won't last long, they'll have to heck off back to their sneakers and other collectibles to get their Biblical greed on.
 
I truly do not believe it matters how much products they create as long as they keep selling it the scalpers and the stores that are ripping us off ...then it really doesn't matter how much the make bc I don't wanna pay the prices I have to...nor really support the company anymore!!!
 
Yaginku said:
I'm glad a random conversation in some random store is enough to contradict dozens of different stores and suppliers. Glad we have it on the books.

Why do obvious scalpers insist that it's some kind of "grand conspiracy", when it's literally the basics of TCG investing? TPCi has previously absolutely destroyed positions of scalpers with a random reprint of Roaring Skies, suddenly them having a control of the supply is some kind of conspiracy.
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I run a store, we sell Pokemon in addition to other games.

You're absolutely clueless and just regurgitating talking points from influencers, who themselves are equally as clueless. Stick to collecting cardboard and leave the economic side to people who are actually in the business.

Spoiler alert, they won't share the real info online, because only unserious clout chasing influencers would do such a thing. Business owners don't need to prove a point.
 
rek2k said:
You're absolutely clueless and just regurgitating talking points from influencers, who themselves are equally as clueless. Stick to collecting cardboard and leave the economic side to people who are actually in the business.
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I thought you'll actually be quoting something about access to supply, trying to argue that your store has got enough of it - completely unverifiable data that goes against reports of not just "influencers", but regular store owners, but at least something of value, even if it's dubious.
Instead you're getting angry at... facts? That TPCi has the sole control of the supply and they used that control previously to manipulate the market to help the players?
If this is really your first post here, you could've workshopped it a bit more.
 
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