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  1. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    @Jabberwock I'm online for a while so feel free to do an @ ping if you have any questions
  2. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Is there a reason why we can't discuss substitutions? >.>
  3. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    ##VOTE: Amici Well if my top scumread has no desire to play this game now they’re in the spotlight, then might as well take the elim. I’d be happy with a hammer here, it doesn’t look like this day will go anywhere. I called and explained an Amici x Mega scum team back in Day 2, so this is based...
  4. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    @Ephemera The Firefighter should only claim if they're on the chopping block with about 48 t0 24 hours or so to get until elimination (giving enough time for counterclaims). If someone does counterclaim the Firefighter, then we know one is lying, and so we have caught scum. @Vom I don't really...
  5. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    @Fiery_Lugia I assume you've read the thread? Who do you think is the last scum? (The last scum is the only other player on the same team as Mega)
  6. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Let's start discussing. I'm reading both Jade and Vom as locktown: - Jade pointed out that there's only 4 hours left in the day. Scum!Jade could have easily ignored mentioning this fact and secured a mislynch on me. - Scum!Vom could have easily dropped their vote on the bbn wagon instead of...
  7. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    ##VOTE: Apathy @everyone Lets eliminate this apathy guys! The support for the Mega wagon literally sprung out of nowhere and the elimination could've been single-handedly decided by scum. All you need to do is: Cast a vote early based on your lowest scumread. Vote in the first 24-48 hours...
  8. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    The bolded is a good point and I don't have any particular explanation for this. I was just sick of (scum!Ephemera) pedaling my name so much or (town!Ephemera) not actually solving or scumhunting anything substantial (if I was wrong about my scumread). Why are you convinced that I was defensive...
  9. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    For those who like metareads; I was reading back Mafia L for fun and noticed that Mega didn't really piggyback when he was town in that game. Albeit it's a larger game; I think this demonstrates that Mega doesn't echo as much as he seems to be suggesting here: town!Mega from Mafia L, original...
  10. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    I wasn't quite understanding this - but turns out I missed a word in my original post. I would not have expected Amici to so readily isolate Eph's vote when he had just reread the context of that vote. No; I probably mean "rhetoric" more than "reads", I'm not sure how others feel about this...
  11. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Mega's response doesn't actually address the case. Mega's case was predominantly about my Celever pitch, which I have addressed many times; not only about me being overdefensive or the "smear campaign"! Why has Mega forgotten half of his own case on me? Why does Mega only address my defenses...
  12. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Re: the claim that I'm being overly defensive right now; I would strongly disagree. scattered's claim is that I was being too defensive. I asked scattered to reread the part of Day 1 that he skimmed, which should show very clearly that Eph continuously and repeatedly was saying I was scummy...
  13. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Or, to be clear, preparing to bus.
  14. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    I agree with Eph's point on scattered - reevaluation seems very plausible here. I'm also concerned that scattered was convinced that I was being too defensive even after reading the context, but I think that's NAI right now. I would like to see more pressure from him on Jade and Fiery (he still...
  15. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    to be clear ^ I meant to write more for the above post, but something came up tonight, it's now very late for me, and so I've just posted it as is. tl;dr is that Mega tends to piggyback, and his progression doesn't seem to make sense for town. He moved from voting to Eph to voting Cel based on...
  16. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    It's piggybacking not flip-flopping. Piggybacking is echoing mixed with a lack of progression and a lack of solving. Case: Megapod is piggy-backing What is piggybacking? Piggybacking is where you rely on other people's cases, and other people's responses to defenses, instead of producing...
  17. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    ##VOTE: Megapod You piggy-backed on my case on Eph, you piggy-backed on Eph's case on Celever, and now you're piggy-backing on scattered mind's points on me. This is despite there being a second part of your case on me (regarding my progression on the Celever wagon), which I had addressed but...
  18. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Yes, I know your point is not that I defended myself. Hence I said it was about being "too defensive" in my post above. That aside, @scattered mind how exactly is the four sentences in my response (spoiler) not appropriate, and how exactly are they overdefensive? This is happening as I'm...
  19. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    Here are all the posts from #120 to #173 where Ephemera threw suspicion on either me or "the four". This should show pretty clearly why I responded in the way I did. I have excluded posts where Eph was asked to talk more about me or the four (that would misconstrue the numbers). The last quote...
  20. bbninjas

    Finished Mafia LXI: Forest Fire: Game Over!

    @scattered mind Is that all you got out of reading that section? >.>
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