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Why would I not want all info available to me? I'm trying to win, and you're not clear either. Win-Con says eliminate all threats, OP says we have to decide what is or is not a threat. And we know for a fact you ain't town, which is a solid start. Now that I have it (yay it didn't break inside...

Luis seemed to be a soft-JOAT. He had three abilities, only one of which was single-use. He was also a name-seer and had a bullet proof vest (takes extra votes to lynch). So however you want to count that is fine. Camo was a half-JOAT. He had one normal ability, and one ability that was tied...

I was lying specifically about what my bomb ability does, not about being a bomb in the first place.

@NinjaPenguin I'm really not cool with you ignoring the need to post your full claim.

Oh, you're right, I didn't realize you have motive to find scum now too. Fantastic, we can work with that. But no, we can't vote Zone on the promise of no NK. For one, I can't imagine why scum would agree to that, and for another, even if Mariano /is/ town, that would mean he'd be telling the...

Or it's NP, somehow. Why he's ignoring me telling him to claim is beyond me.

And that's gonna be game as soon as NP follows suit. GG to obvious scum Mariano, good thing Camo told you to get rid of Celever and Ninjas because you would have been out already otherwise.

So my question would be: Why did you lie about it? To avoid scum killing you because you thought you were useful for town? I still think it is too selfish way of thinking to come from a town member, town is a team and it doesn't matter who dies first and who makes it to the end of the game as...

Frickin' tags. You are not NP. What's that have to do with anything? Both other scum, in their safe-claims, had the details of their abilities swapped, but not all of the effects. You have a kill ability. We know another scum has to have a kill ability because of Luis's flip (and Camo didn't)...

Nope, can't take yourself out of that bucket so easily. This is between you and me. The fact that you're even throwing Zone out there implies you're okay with either death, because it doesn't matter to you who dies, does it? You win either way so long as you live. I. Was. Lying. I'm really...

...? Luis had multiple abilities, even if he wasn't a JOAT, and Camo was only half a JOAT. I see no reason to discount that the last scum wouldn't also be a JOAT of some sort. And I had to double-check Luis's role to be sure, but he was Applejack and Camo was Rarity (as safe-claims). Taken from...

Unless this was NP's doing, it doesn't seem to be anything that the other claimed roles can do. So scum must have done it. I'm looking back through other scum for clues, and I'd like to point out that this ability from Luis implies that there is another scum with an ability that forces them to...

"The spell is unstable, and you have to be careful not to affect this timeline, so you won't have enough time to discern whether or not the Farewell Ability you learn about is true, or just that of a safe claim." I suppose it doesn't say 50/50, but it means I have a chance of getting either...

@NinjaPenguin can you post your claim again as well? We already have Zone's from yesterday for reference, but I'd like them all here to compare.

Alright, I understand it now. Mariano is the last scum. Which sucks in you posting first because it puts me in WIFOM, but I suppose that's what you wanted isn't it? I checked Zone again last night and got the same result. I have a 50/50 chance of getting a safe-claim ability so I wanted to...

Go ahead, hammer. We can't really learn anything else. Zone's role lines up with everything I wanted to check, so I'm good.

We still need Zone to reveal his claim. I'd like to compare it to something he said earlier.

Camo was scummy for as long as he was playing, I just meant tangible evidence. Zone being targeted by revealed scum is another good point in Zone's direction. If it isn't Drac I'll be very surprised.

That being said, the result I got from Zone's Farewell ability: You learned Zone Q11's Farewell Ability permanently switches the Active Abilities of two players of his choosing,

I highly doubt there'd be two JOAT roles on either side. That was the first piece of evidence against Camo. We can't take that as evidence against flipped scum and not also use it as town evidence the other way around. Just like Jabber, too many things add up for Mariano being town. It's either...