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Swagger raises the target's Attack two stages and confuses it. Should the target already be confused, or be protected by confusion due to Safeguard, Swagger will still raise its Attack. Pokémon with the Ability Own Tempo are immune to both effects. Because the target's Attack increases, they...

Prevents both effects of swagger. No confusion=no boost. I looked at some Swagger teams now. They mainly use Metagross i Conkeldur. They usually don't set up Tailwind/TR but they support the teammate with Twave or Icy Wind (Cresselia and Thundurus)

Own Tempo prevents the boost from Swagger What are good Trick Room users in VGC?

Opponent uses double Intimidate on Bisharp and then we boost him with Swagger. +4 gg. Is BeatUp + Justified still a good combo?

Too bad for Flatter I didn't know it was only +1. I don't see why Conkelderp needs Safeguard as it can hold Persim Berry. Scizor seems like a decent option with Protect/BP/Bug Bite/Acrobatics but Zapdos walls it and is x4 weak to fire. Defiant Bisharp looks cool but I am not to sure because of...

Hariyama could be good. It plays similar to Conkelderp thanks to Guts but it has Fake Out. If we end up using on of these slower mons we might as well drop Tailwind for Trick Room support. I really think Conkeldur could work thanks to Drain Punch healing it. Breloom could also work as it can...

I like Suicune because of tailwind not to sure about Arcanine but you are the VGC expert. How about a Persim Berry Conkelderp. Thanks to Guts he doesnt need to worry about burns and para. Also another good abuser of swagger could be Scrafty thanks to Fake Out Moxie and Drain Punch.

nah i am lazy

I am poor haha I only buy original Wii and DS games.

Yeah I know. I downloaded the game but I don't really know how to install it because I am noob at this torrent stuff.

Once at my friend's house. It is good.

haha close enough

air conditioning

Thank God for AC.

Nope it is hot as hell here.

Yessir

Most of the players that participate in the game know what counters what. And everybody hated Breloom for the fact that you must look at the worst case scenario. Xatu is a good counter to Breloom but if you switch it into Stone Edge it dies which won't happen a lot.

Yeah but I think the point of the game is to find a good / perfect counter and Mienshao doesn't have many counters. With things like Tornadus you can just put the obvious one. Give us something so we must think more about a counter ike you did with Breloom (Spore + 3 Attacks is rare but it has a...

Is Gliscor any good in VGC. It shares Blizzard weakness with Whimsicott but after Tailwind and Swagger it can use boosted Acrobatics (cuz no Lum) and has a good spread move in Earthquake. Not to mention it has Hyper Cutter to stop Intimidate. Seems like a perfect Pokemon in theory lol.

Next Counter that Pokemon should be SD Mienshao (SD, HJK, Stone Edge, HP Ice)