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Thanks. The Pokemon games are just pure joy at times...brings back great memories. Well, wouldn't a 1-1-1 Vanilluxe and 1 Victini be a fun tech in a water deck? Haha, the part about it looking good on paper reminded me of Turtank....those days....

Sheesh, if that's the case then I'd be running like 4-4 Magmortar and all other energies......hehe you get my idea?

Looking at the HeartGold SoulSilver on format, one thing immediately stuck out: The abnormally large number of very good Dark pokemon, especially at Stage 1. I would link to them all, but there's way too many. You can find them all through Pokebeach's databases. Tyrannitar Prime UD (The...

that's why i need an alternate attacker. I need something that can stand in the face of heavy opposition after the lock breaks. I'm thinking some kinda stage 1 water, but drawing blanks. Carracosta looks like my best choice....

^ that post seems oddly irrelevant on first glance...but I think I see what you're getting at. That's why you want them to stay paralyzed. You can always seeker the Vileplume and then pull up Typhlosion and pwn it.

Im hearing a lot about how Feraligatr can help Beartic attach. Here's my point. Are you really gonna run Feraligatr with Catcher and ZPS in play? Exactly. So please DO NOT CONSIDER THAT OPTION. However, Cobalion lacks other Steel support pokemon to help it tank/setup or even as a side...

.....Isn't there another thread on this? The only plus of LZing the Spinarak and using Mew instead is +20 HP. That wouldn't really matter much, would it? (Unless you were using Mew to LZ it, then it would make sense cuz it could just be in your deck...but that's why we have collectors)

.... just saying, nobody plays steelix prime now. that i know of. Once Blissey PL was gone, Steelix just lost it's heal. Or you could also run a fire tech.

Why I said Cinncinno. With one DCE, it can do a full frontal assault for 120 with no setbacks. Your bench doesn't have to have any specific pokemon, so it can be filled with pokemon with different uses, like Slowking for Lock, Honchkrow for snipe, etc. I also recommend Zoroark. Using whatever...

Haha, we've already finished a major Cubone deck in Team Rogue (you ppls are SLOOOOOOOW) but since it's disbanded, I'll give you a taste of our awesomeness =P 4-4 Marowak 2-2 Archeops 3 Terrakion 1 Victini 4 Junk Arms 4 Eviolite 4 Research Records 4 Sage's Trainings 2 "Archen"...

Use Spinarak. =P (see Ultra Stall sandbox article)

then *enter new vanilluxe 3-2-3 Vanilluxe 3 Ability Victini 2-1-2 Vileplume Some other card(s) that can work on Victini's ability EDIT: I also noticed. Vanillish also has a paralyzing move, with Victini it's a 25% chance of failure. Worse than a full Vanilluxe, but still a strong...

Easy. Use a card that serves dual purposes. Or make a Cinncinno deck. Whichever suits your style.

and seriously, dont worry about the coin flip. 6.25% of failing is just amazingly good. that's like missing with tackle......VERY RARELY. I've only missed with tackle like 20 times out of the 10 years I've been playing Pokemon. this would actually be faster than magneboar since Vileplume...

Eviolite has much better uses, like on Cubone, Cobalion, and other pokemon that can be buffed up with Steels and other stuff. Druddigon works better with the Rugged Helmet and Catcher to Lock some foolish pokemon on the bench like Emboar, Feraligatr, etc. But I think Rugged Helmet works...

I'm not quite sure if this is going to be even legal.....0_0 Have Vanilluxe as an active with only 2 energies, and Ability Victini benched. Use Double Freeze, which reads as following; Vanilluxe - Water - HP130 Stage 2 - Evolves from Vanillish [W][C] Double Freeze: 40x damage. Flip 2...

@Azurial: Sorry to bash, but Trainer Lock seems kinda self explanatory @DNA: LOL FTW

Which is why you run Slowking just in case they don't have a cleffa. You don't HAVE to lock the cleffa, that's only the preferred one. Any other basic pokemon that's meant to take up bench space would work ie. Shaymin, Pachirisu, Shuckle, Mime, etc. You could even lock something like a tepig and...

...Is there a "like" button any where on this thread? I see no water energy for Kindra's attack, you dont need that many grass energy if all you're gonna use is Spider Web. I would put at least 1 Ariados so that just if they break it you still can do some heal+damage. Someone said Slowking...

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