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Deus: Nightmare Autarch, In VGC AR is illegal actually. They don't allow anyone to participate if they quote "modify thier game with an outside device". One judge all but slammed a kids game to the table because the scanner came back that it was hacked. That's kind of why the RNG thing is a gray...

Pokeplayer44, yea. I was. I'm a Team KO member. Had a "year of the dragon" pokemon t-shirt and a black cap with a pokeball on it.

I agree with this.. the thing is, if it's one or two of these guys I wouldn't bat an eye. I'd be like, "you got lucky dude! awesome!" It's whole teams/boxes of them that is unethical part. That's be like winning the state lotto every week. If it wasn't tournament play I'd agree with you. The...

Saw your response on the RNG ethics thread. I think it was fair. I do agree that it isn't necessary and I'm glad to hear that someone besides me trys things that aren't meta, lol. My Storm Drain Cradily got me to 5/3 in Athens this year simply because people had no clue anyone would even use...

As for cloning, that's another thing I couldn't care less about. I don't use AR at all, but I have cloned in Emerald using the Battle Tower Glitch. This doesn't affect tourney play at all, seeing as you can only use one of each pokémon species... so yea... I have nothing against cloning if...

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I liked your response do to your "just because you can doesn't mean you should". I understand that RNG is kind of a gray area, but I feel since it is abuse of an aspect that is rather broken, that it has no place at a VGC. I feel the same way about AR to an extent. If you want to screw around...

Saw your post on the RNG ethics thread. I like the way you think.

Eon, Lol thanks!

Touché, I see it now.. they did a good job hiding it. I was looking for a logo. My previous post still stands though, regardless of if prima produced it or not. If Nintendo ever stamps any document that references RNG, I'd be cool with it. Otherwise, still gonna frown upon it.

I tell you what. If Nintendo ever certifies and stamps any guide that even vaguely mentions RNG, I will not say a word about it being used in tournies. I just want to see a stamp of approval on the concept. I don't even need it to be super specific as to why. If I want more info then I feel I...

Wrong guides bro. I was referring to the platinum guide. It is published by Pokémon USA, so Prima is not involved at all either that or they are uncredited. If you want I can scan the publishing info too.

Valid point except for the EV thing. The Offical PUSA certified strategy guide for Platinum (page 186) outlines EV training, using pokerus and power items, and even tells you which pokemon are worth each Stat (like Gastly for Sp. Atk). [hr] "Cinesra: it's only illegal if you get caught" Ahh...

I can breed for 2 - 3 max IVs pretty easy by chain breeding and using power items (per the Nintendo strategy guide) so that's not a big deal. I've been to Nationals before with non-RNG'd pokemon so it is possible. I will say, it's a tad odd that you defend your ethics stance by quoting a villain.

Ok,that's fine. I just didn't know what this was.. and I've apparently been doing it wrong when it comes to raising guys. I work my butt off to breed guys that are "relatively superior" and if I'm super lucky "outstanding"... but I've never bred a shiny pokemon because I thought it was luck. Now...

So it doesn't make it easier to get pokemon that would normally be difficult to obtain, statistically speaking?

I didn't say legal. I said ethical.

I went to the TCG/VG Regionals this past weekend, and I did ok (5/3), but two of my losses were people with teams of all shinies which was kind of suspicious. I asked my first all shiny competitor how they got so many and they informed me of a weird game manipulation techinque called RNGing...

My team, Team KO, was there. You guys may have saw us. We had the black t-shirts that said "Year of the Dragon."

What japanese set was that Bisharp originally from?