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Pokémon: 8 4 Seismitoad EX 2 Giratina EX 2 Shaymin EX Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums: 45 4 Professor Sycamore 1 Lysandre 1 Judge 1 Hex Maniac 1 Xerosic 1 AZ 1 Team Flare Grunt 1 Skyla 1 Cassius 4 Ultra Ball 4 Super Scoop Up 4 VS Seeker 4 Trainers' Mail 4 Puzzle of Time 4 Crushing Hammer 3...

Hex è un must a causa della maggiore gioco di Vileplume. Senza un modo per mettere a tacere Vileplume, si è lasciato con niente, è letteralmente non può giocare la metà del tuo mazzo. ponti Mill sono ponti voce pesanti in modo serrature voce farà male male. Solo perché Mew non sarà in grado di...

Hex is a must because of the increased play of Vileplume. Without a way to silence Vileplume, you're left with nothing, you literally can't play half of your deck. Mill decks are heavy item decks so item locks will hurt bad. Just because Mew wont be able to attack, doesnt mean you can't with...

Instead of worrying about the OHKO on Vespiquen try testing with a Jirachi. He will give you the ability to hit and remove the DCE and locks the special energy play next turn which should give you the time to KO the Vespiquen or pull up a Vileplume next turn and item lock lock to prevent a...

That looks good. I'd test it and see how it works. I'd like to not add Shaymin to the DL, but might have to

After playing Ohio States this weekend, Vespiquen/ Vilplume is becoming very popular. You'll need Hex in your deck of you want to survive that deck. It's going to take a lot of play testing but it'll work. Item locking will destroy this deck. I'd remove cards and build around that.

Vespiquen/ Vilplume will ruin this deck. The problem is you won't be able to do enough damage to Vespiquen, Jolteon's attack had no effect on Vespiquen, won't be able to setup Garbodor because of Vilplume item lock. The other issue I see is there's very little to no draw support. With only 2...

So I just finish Ohio states and only played against 1 NM deck in 7 rounds. Didn't do too bad went 5-0-2 in Swiss but got it handed to me first round top 8 against Vespiquen/Vileplume. That's the new NM, or at least at Ohio states that was the deck played most

What is locking playing energy?

I wouldn't worry too much about your opponent streaming Hex. Unless they have amazing draw support, I feel it's a waste to stream Hex every turn to be able to use items.

-1 Megaphone -1 Battle Compressor -1 Giovanni +1 Sycamore +1 Brigette +1 Xerosic I don't feel there's a need for Megaphone when you can use Xerosic for tool removal and for energy removal. 1 Battle compressor isn't going to help when you only run 3 trainers mail, so the chance of hitting it...

Really it's going to depend on matchups. This DL can work and I think I saw a few top 8 state championships have Toad/Bats, but I would test this out and see how often you're evolving your bats. It looks to me like you dont have a lot of bat support to be able to get bats out consistantly to...

So I think I disproved my point. I re-looked at every state tournament top 8. NM is NOT 50% of the top 8 in most state championships. In most they're 25% or 37% of the top 8, so 2 or 3 decks are NM in top 8. What continues to throw the numbers off is that when NM doesnt win, the winning...

It'll take some modification but you can run Team Magma's Secret Base and more basic energy.

But to your point of a counter example, NM doesnt have a good counter where you could get those numbers. NM is just so consistant and good that when you see <50% of people playing it there's going to be at least 50% in top 8. Now of course I dont have those numbers nor do I know the metagame...

But you math is unrealistic. It's very probable that 50% of players are playing NM. Fortunately for NM it's so versatile that it is favored in most matchups. Why not compare Seismitoad/Giratina vs NM for statistics instead of swaying the results with what you chose to compare?

How do you know? It's all statistics. Your chances of win rate increases the more people play it. Right now winning states NM is sitting a lil above 50%. I bet people play NM 50% or more in each states. So the statistics are real. If you flipped that around and 50% or more played another...

I'm not ignoring the numbers, but again I'll go back to what I said before. If 50% of people play a deck in any tournament, the chances of seeing that deck in the top 8 and winning is 50%. But that goes with any deck. If 50% start to play Trevenant the same results will happen

Id rather see them add a card that slows down night march rather than ban a card that will completely destroy a deck just because it's popular. If anything this conversation and NM is great for this card game. There are so many people trying to find and make decks to counter NM. Id rather see...

It is a risk/reward card for sure, but the chance to be able to mill 4 cards when you dont plan/need to play any other supporter that turn is worth it to me to run a 1 of.