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Yo you forgot the VileGar. T1 Vileplume baby! Haha even worse because the only counter was Dialga G Lv. X. If you think T1 Item lock or Quaking Punch is bad, no offence you really need to git gud. Item lock is the least of the problems of the TCG now because it's manageable. The problems are...

Not kill, but force people to need skill. Karen will be most likely used in quick and simple decks like Seismitoad/Giratina or Seismitoad/Garbodor. Those decks have lots of room for Trainers and Quaking Punch+Karen pretty much seals the fate. I don't know why people aren't bringing this combo...

Financial reasons are why. I'm going to university this Fall and want to get back into PC gaming/sports.

Um... Rampardos and Bastiodon?

Barrier you mean. Anyways, I think the printing of Karen is hinting at the return of Night March/Battle Compressor outside of Japan. Yes! Karen then Quaking Punch. Bye bye. Finally. We need more people like you. Battle Compressor isn't the problem. Karen is an Arceus-send.

...until someone plays target whistle. Maybe Grumpig will see more play if people play this with Night March.

Yo I thought links to other sites are forbidden?

Disadvantage: Takes up space in NM. It's already powerful enough and taking out some stuff will take away consistency and ways to deal with certain matchups.

Have you ever thought about using Glaceon and Jolteon as partners to Mega Manectric, replacing Regice and Articuno?

1. You havent responded to my point about EXs being unfavourable now or the speed of tjebgame. You keep saying Compressor allows for plays you feel shouldn't happen but you never give examples beyond NM, Vespiquen or Blastoise. Yveltal is a skillfull deck yet it uses Compressor and no one says...

I have to politely disagree with banning BC because I already pointed out other decks that take advantage of that card but no one thinks twice about it. YZG is very skill based so banning that will hurt it for no reason. Banning NM is correct and the most logical thing because it abuses it so...

Toad and Zoroark will have a blast running 4 of the Captivating PokePuff. While many think it can counter NM, I think it can be used against you. It'll be interesting to see chess-like matches involving 4 of that card.

Seismitoad.Is.Managable.And.The.Saviour.Of.Pokemon.Fake.Hate.On.Toad.Is.Unjustified.

Ok we have to be logical here. Is BC bad for the game? Well, Night March, Vespiquen and Blastoise are the problem, not NM. Think about it. Only those decks abuse BC and get cheap OHKOs from T1 with no drawback. Even Item lock can't stop NM. Yveltal (Standard and Expanded), Mega Manectric, any...

Learn to play. Toad isn't that good anymore anyways. NM beats it. Cheap Grass Weakness for all Water Pokemon is over the top anyways.

Of course. Seismitoad is actually in the light side because NM is the annoying deck. 1. This card isn't the problem. NM is. 2. These guys should be reprinted they're balanced enough and even then you don't always draw what you need. Remember Uxie? 3. YES!! WE NEED TOAD WHEN THERE ARE CHEAP...

Good. Suicune's Weakness is lightning. We need more of this instead of making all Water types weak to Grass.

So Primal Groudon had brief success at LCs all the way until Worlds. However since then, he's fallen by the wayside. One of the reasons besides Grass Weakness is the inability to damage Regice and Pokemon that have attacks that prevent damage done to it. With the upcoming release of Twisted...

Um... no. Carbink says this: This is too good for NM not to play at least 1 copy because 1 of the ways to attempt to beat NM is energy denial. With a way to literally stop any way to discard Special Energy for NM, don't you think that's OP for NM? And as far as "counters" released in this set...

Uh... no the last thing we need is more unbalance with cheap OHKO NM decks running around with no counter. If this is where the direction Pokemon is going, with no counter and support for control/defensive decks, I might quit playing. It's too frustrating playing against NM if they can utilize...