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Or we can wait for these cards to see play in a high level tournament setting and analyse the results before we come to conclusions?

As someone who plays Deciduplume and Maxie's Yveltal; BOTH of them?? I hear Greninja and Trev are pretty good. It's interesting to hear they considered banning Compressor as well. Now THAT would have shook things up.

Ok, and then (if the TCG is smart) the toxic cards get banned. Every other card game has a banned list. I'm not sure why this one is so reluctant to use theirs. But it does matter whether it's used now because that's what we're talking about; current expanded. Latte and I propose that HTL is...

Ok, I should say I was speaking of BW in terms of the current expanded format, not the entire history of the BW era. My point was that BW cards are fairly represented in the current expanded meta game. As for current expanded being "basically whose dark deck gets setup first" there are other...

Thank you! Honestly, rotating expanded seems pointless because, at most, we loose about 10 cards (Laserbank too but that's become kinda niche). BW was a very fair block

I wanna say expanded isn't going to rotate this year since the good Ho-oh EX and the Kyurems are being reprinted in an expanded product. If expanded is rotating why wouldn't this year's Battle Arena decks feature XY EXs? Wouldn't it suck if they reprint this nice Ho-oh only to rotate it the same...

Including what the above posters are saying, Night March has to balance attackers and stuff in their discard so KOing more that 1 mon per turn can really thrown them off. Night Spear Darkrai EX is a good mon to prioritize powering up for that reason and can OHKO any active mon they have and a...

Since we're getting Boundaries Crossed EXs so close to rotation this must mean Expanded won't rotate this year either (woot)

I agree that Volc gets some fun toys in expanded (compressor is tasty in that deck too) but time will tell if the deck actually puts up the results. For now, I'm not worried as I don't see it much currently.

Did I miss a meeting? Did Lillie replace Sycamore?

My current list doesn't run Magearna. I'll update the OP Edit: Still haven't found a spot for Fortress Zong. Deck space is tight :(

Die horribly? In my experience Volcanion isn't a common deck in Expanded anyway :P

1. Decidueye is a GX pokemon not EX. Most Safegaurd mons have lowish HP (and a weakness to grass to boot) so taking them out isn't a problem. 2. I run Xerosic. It's usually pretty good. Muscle Banded Razor Leaf OHKOs as well with Lysander. (man, Decidueye is a cool secondary attacker) 3. Trev is...

And if you don't go first? Trev very easily can get a lock turn 1 with Wally. This is another criticism of bounce builds. They get locked way easier. I'm use Ghetsis as part of my more aggressive Revitalizer/Compressor package though and it's been pretty sweet. Aside from the potential turn 1...

Now that's interesting stuff. Do you have a list? I honestly thought Grenade Hammer was a very inefficient attack since Toad decks typically run no energy acceleration and would like to use a single DCE to attack with. I love Virbank though and any deck that makes good use of it is a friend of...

I forgot about that Bronzong! Thanks for the input :) Would you then run 4-4 Bronzong line (with one Fortress Zong of coarse) or would you keep it at 3-3?

I'd better update my list: Mons (18) 3 Bronzor (FC) 3 Bronzong (PF) 3 Cosmog (SM) 1 Cosmoem (SM) 3 Solgaleo GX (SM) 2 Shaymin EX (RS) 1 Aegislash EX (PF) 1 Dialga EX (PF) 1 Giratina (promo) Trainers (33) 4 Battle Compressor 4 Trainer's Mail 1 Computer Search 3 Ultra Ball 2 Level Ball 3 Rare...

I'm loving this deck archtype so maybe I can help. I agree that the Scoop Up package is a distraction when you should just be focusing on getting out the Decidueyes rather than reusing them. Use at least 2 Revitalizer along with your Battle Compressors to help you get your evolution cards...

I haven't tested it without Shaymin and I think you will lose speed for sure. I'll leave testing Oranguru up to you and I'd love to hear about the results :)

I mean, there's SO much you can prepare for. I've considered Archeops but I don't see it that often (compared to NM or Trev) so I've resigned myself to my fate against it. Hex is a good idea if you expect some in your local meta though. As for saving my dudes, it's a good idea on paper but...