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Both cards are things you can open with that are either not Froakie or do not get you to Froakie. It is entirely possible that you can go a number of turns without being able to set up with this decklist. Traditional Talonflame builds or 4 Froakie (no other basics) builds will always start...

These are stronger arguments, though I still don't agree with Tapu Lele, and I don't like doing it at the cost of the deck's engine.

"Also where are your Rescue Stretchers? I find this card to be incredibly valuable, especially if you have to discard Pokémon early with draw support like Sycamore. My post-rotation deckruns 2 Rescue Stretchers, but I can understand you running 1 if you have a tight list." It's between "3x...

Sorry, crazy week, plus have been weighing this against the Garb/Sylveon GX deck, though that one definitely isn't "budget friendly". The problem with relying on mill as a strategy is that Rescue Stretcher and Super Rod are both widely played. It seems like alternating disruption and beats is...

Based on how close together our posts are, I'm pretty sure he means yours.

Exactly. Whether you go with Staryu-Starmie or Talonflame, your deck should be about one thing, and one thing only. Accelerating to multiple Greninja Breaks in play as quickly as possible. If you dilute the deck with too many side options, it won't work. The other strength of this deck is...

Been thinking about this. N does the opposite of what this deck wants, so probably shouldn't be played. That said, what goes there? Judge is an interesting idea, but it wipes the other cards retrieved by Magical Ribbon, which eliminates the Red Card-Arena-Delinquent combo. Ultimately, I...

Why not a mix? T1 Froakie -> T2 Duplicates + Evosoda + Wally = T3 Giant Water Shuriken. That said, not feeling the mix sans Talonflame...Rainbow/Burning Energy allows for faster, more consistent answer. What makes this deck great is the explosive chaining and the fact that we never hand over...

Points about energy denial noted, plus just not wanting to lean too heavily on random cards. Revised: Sylveon Control Pokémon (8) 4× Eevee (SUM) 4× Sylveon GX (GRI) Trainers (39) 2× Acerola (BUS) 4× Delinquent (BKP) 4× Guzma (BUS) 2× N (FAC) 2× Plumeria (BUS) 3× Team Flare Grunt (GEN) 2×...

With regards to the Giratina issue, is there anything we can use to turn on Talonflame Break's attack? Then we just OHKO it. On the low tech end...I don't know...Rainbow Energy? Not saying it's a great solution, but it could work. Also gives us a Pokémon that retreats for free and hits for...

Thanks for all the excellent feedback! I won't be going to large events with any deck. I work in an LGS, which means working weekends and working while others play (and so they can play). We have a weekly event that occurs after my shift on Saturday, which it's nice to hop in to every now and...

I'm very new to this archetype (and PokéBeach) but like the look of this as a 2nd deck to keep around with my Greninja Break deck for the upcoming year. The. builds I've seen that I really like so far have been using Eevie/Sylveon GX only and, since most of the other cards are rotating out...

What purpose does Talonflame Break serve? Is it just to boost HP? The top placing deck at the NAIC played it, but I'm still not clear why. I'm not criticizing its inclusion, I'm genuinely curious. I'm not a regular player, so I missed the innovation of this bit of tech. As for this list...

At first glance Lana and the new Ribombee's Honey Gather ability look good for this deck going forward (Cutiefly/Ribombee both have colorless costs), but are they traps? Even going the Starmie route, how mana Pokémon in this deck have energy attached in the late game for Lana to heal? Is even...