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‘Phantom Gate’ Pokemon-EX, Mystery Energy, AZ, Spirit Link Card, and More Revealed! [8/11]
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Interesting so far! I do enjoy the artwork on Gengar-EX. Mystery Energy seems to be more limited in use compared to Strong and Herbal Energies, but it's interesting. Perhaps we will see a consistent motif of special energies? If so, I look forward to see what any potential Electric type energy does.
Also, I feel AZ's effect is far to similar to Cassius XY. I'm sort of disappointed with the lack of originality so far with supporters in the XY series...
EDIT: I should also mention that I absolutely called it on Team Flare themed cards with red borders. Very excited for these Spirit Link cards!
Also, looking closely, M-Manectric-EX's attack's english text ends in "Bolt", but the first word is unreadable.
Also, I feel AZ's effect is far to similar to Cassius XY. I'm sort of disappointed with the lack of originality so far with supporters in the XY series...
EDIT: I should also mention that I absolutely called it on Team Flare themed cards with red borders. Very excited for these Spirit Link cards!
Also, looking closely, M-Manectric-EX's attack's english text ends in "Bolt", but the first word is unreadable.
Wow! this is some great new cards! Can't wait to see what that Flare card is though. I doubt it's anything crazy.
It looks like Dialgia will be too slow without metal acceleration, unless it can stall out with Chrono wind to re-attatch. I like the psychic energy, it fits in with them being sneaky little ghosts with free retreat costs and stuff. I gotta say I am much more hyped for this set than furious fists, and I think furious fists is really solid.
Ditto is the most legit card ever.
Gengar EX has near identical artwork as it's level X card, other then that the artwork is solid for all the cards.
What are spirit link cards again?
Gengar EX has near identical artwork as it's level X card, other then that the artwork is solid for all the cards.
What are spirit link cards again?
Well first off I love the Mega Gengar pack art and the Mega Manectric. Maybe his attack is Volt Bolt or Charge Bolt because the first word looks short. I'm sososo sad at AZ. He has a cool name that fits with N. He has a cool story in the game. Maybe my favorite character in the game (lol besides me, kinda saved the world). And they give him a crappy effect that is outclassed by Cassius. Flippin Cassius which is also a pretty bad card 99% of the time.
On a more positive note, Mystery Energy will go nicely with my little pumpkins deck.
On a more positive note, Mystery Energy will go nicely with my little pumpkins deck.
I'm loving the tripped out-jellybean-LSD feel going on with the set!
Really suits the ghosts especially gengar!
Very disappointed with AZ! I was hoping they'd play on his invulnerability/prolonged life by making it something to do your active pokemon being unable to be damaged for the turn, or prevent added effects or something like that! Would have been different
Oh well...
Really suits the ghosts especially gengar!
Very disappointed with AZ! I was hoping they'd play on his invulnerability/prolonged life by making it something to do your active pokemon being unable to be damaged for the turn, or prevent added effects or something like that! Would have been different
Oh well...
So the red card is the Spirit Link card? Or am I missing something?
Team Flare cards? Hell yes. Can't wait to see what this brings us! I'm also already loving the art work in this set.
Kind of confused as to why we need AZ, but I feel like maybe with the later cards in the set, it'll make more sense. Oh my god this means FA AZ!!!
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Why the jelly beans Japan?
Why the jelly beans Japan?
It's ectoplasm, not jelly beans.
Team Flare Team Flare Team Flare TEAM FLARE! I can't wait for the Team Flare version of a Lysandre card, and having Team Flare cards begin to exist is an awesome first step. I'm gonna go make some fake Team Flare cards now because yay red borders
Also, "ectoplasm"? Don't ruin our jellybean/rainbow fun, maaaaaan. It's definitely a cool art theme, that's for sure.
Mega Gengar looks crazy, and I think that's brilliant. Not too keen on the Metal Pokemon in this set yet, but yay for the Psychic cards being awesome!
And that Ditto... I hope there are promo/prerelease prints with alternate artworks to show Ditto transforming into other stuff!
And I think AZ plus Crobat might be handy for the more casual players. Obviously it's no tournament-winning thing, but if you have a Golbat on your Bench and a Crobat about to be Knocked Out, you can use AZ on the Crobat and evolve Golbat again - simple!
EDIT: Also, where's this "Team Flare full art Trainer card"? If it's that watermarked thing between M Gengar and the booster pack, that's just a regular-art card. With a rulebox in the middle of it as well, it won't get a full art version because it's not a supporter or a Pokemon.
Also, "ectoplasm"? Don't ruin our jellybean/rainbow fun, maaaaaan. It's definitely a cool art theme, that's for sure.
Mega Gengar looks crazy, and I think that's brilliant. Not too keen on the Metal Pokemon in this set yet, but yay for the Psychic cards being awesome!
And that Ditto... I hope there are promo/prerelease prints with alternate artworks to show Ditto transforming into other stuff!
And I think AZ plus Crobat might be handy for the more casual players. Obviously it's no tournament-winning thing, but if you have a Golbat on your Bench and a Crobat about to be Knocked Out, you can use AZ on the Crobat and evolve Golbat again - simple!
EDIT: Also, where's this "Team Flare full art Trainer card"? If it's that watermarked thing between M Gengar and the booster pack, that's just a regular-art card. With a rulebox in the middle of it as well, it won't get a full art version because it's not a supporter or a Pokemon.
Okay, going to talk about each card spoilered yet:
Gengar Ex:
I'm really happy with Gengar Ex who will work nice with Trevenant/Gothitelle (Gothitelle having the nice 0 retreat cost with the new energy).
Balanced but still something I would think about as a deck.
M-Gengar Ex:
M-Gengar Ex is nice too, works really well with the new stadium and one of the few (maybe the only one yet with Lucario) who I'd consider playble.
But it still depends on the opponents deck, how useful it is. Interessting is, there is no "other costs" disclaimer on the card, like it was on the metronom cards!
Dialga-EX:
Disapointing legendary Ex Pokémon.
You read the first attack and hope the second is really cool but then... Meh! It's a worse Charizard attack. xD
Playing this is not the best idear, especially since Pyroar is so popular.
Aegislash-EX:
Now where talking! It's not a Pokémon you will build a deck around, but you can splash it easily and it will be annoying as h*ll. ; )
The attack is decent too, not too strong but okay.
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat:
What a sneaky ability (*cough* bad joke).
Reminds me of the old, and annoying, Crobat G, back in the day when we had real rotations without reprint sets... : /
This will see play and with the new stadium you can attack for free, which is always something.
Ditto:
A really classic ditto, but with a nice upside, that it got a own attack. But too low on HP to be considered playble.
Dimensional Valley:
Okay, they kinda got their point by printing really strong stadiums. This feels like the era of strong stadiums after we had a strong item cards era (and supporter before that).
We might see 1-2 new decks with old Pokémon added. But don't like the art, a bit too much of a rainbow color, bright theme for psychic. (I know it should be ectoplasm but for me it looks like skittles or smarties : ) )
AZ:
It kinda obvious he got spoilered to promote the hype for the Crobat line and he is a bit stronger than Cassius, since the cards are not gone and you can play the preevolution again and maybe evolve another Pokémon on the bench?
A fixed super scoop up in my eyes and that saw a heck of play back in the days! (Do I sound old by now? xD)
Mystery Energy:
A bit... Disapointing but fair and it's obvious why the (compared to strong energy) low powerlevel. The effect is nice and with a already this strong stadium in the set a powerful support energy would have been too much. This one is a perfect match.
Works nice for Gothithelle.
Gengar Ex:
I'm really happy with Gengar Ex who will work nice with Trevenant/Gothitelle (Gothitelle having the nice 0 retreat cost with the new energy).
Balanced but still something I would think about as a deck.
M-Gengar Ex:
M-Gengar Ex is nice too, works really well with the new stadium and one of the few (maybe the only one yet with Lucario) who I'd consider playble.
But it still depends on the opponents deck, how useful it is. Interessting is, there is no "other costs" disclaimer on the card, like it was on the metronom cards!
Dialga-EX:
Disapointing legendary Ex Pokémon.
You read the first attack and hope the second is really cool but then... Meh! It's a worse Charizard attack. xD
Playing this is not the best idear, especially since Pyroar is so popular.
Aegislash-EX:
Now where talking! It's not a Pokémon you will build a deck around, but you can splash it easily and it will be annoying as h*ll. ; )
The attack is decent too, not too strong but okay.
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat:
What a sneaky ability (*cough* bad joke).
Reminds me of the old, and annoying, Crobat G, back in the day when we had real rotations without reprint sets... : /
This will see play and with the new stadium you can attack for free, which is always something.
Ditto:
A really classic ditto, but with a nice upside, that it got a own attack. But too low on HP to be considered playble.
Dimensional Valley:
Okay, they kinda got their point by printing really strong stadiums. This feels like the era of strong stadiums after we had a strong item cards era (and supporter before that).
We might see 1-2 new decks with old Pokémon added. But don't like the art, a bit too much of a rainbow color, bright theme for psychic. (I know it should be ectoplasm but for me it looks like skittles or smarties : ) )
AZ:
It kinda obvious he got spoilered to promote the hype for the Crobat line and he is a bit stronger than Cassius, since the cards are not gone and you can play the preevolution again and maybe evolve another Pokémon on the bench?
A fixed super scoop up in my eyes and that saw a heck of play back in the days! (Do I sound old by now? xD)
Mystery Energy:
A bit... Disapointing but fair and it's obvious why the (compared to strong energy) low powerlevel. The effect is nice and with a already this strong stadium in the set a powerful support energy would have been too much. This one is a perfect match.
Works nice for Gothithelle.
OK, guys. Seems, some new playbable and less playable cards spotted the light.
I'd like to talk 'bout Mystery energy first. It seems, that the special-typed energies mostly cover/support the specialty of its types:
Herbal energy supports self-healing specialty of grass types, 'cause many grass 'mons do something with self-healing (e.g. Chesnaught, some Venusaur, Serperior, some Bellossom, etc.)
Strong energy supports fighting type specialty of doing big damage (e.g. Landorus EX, Lucario NXD, Hawlucha, etc.)
Mystery energy'll cover many psychic types big retreat (already mentioned Trevenant/Goirgeist; Metagross,…)
If we got potential all other types, then I'm pretending foolowing:
Fire: something like reducing/stopping discarding energies after some big attacks (Flamethrower, etc.)
Lightning: reducing/stopping doing self-damage (Thunder, Bolt Strike,…)
Metal: multiplying units of energy providing due to expensive attacks (Steelix,…)
Water: I'm afraid it'll be something combined with metal/strong… many water types just add damage if attached more energies…
Darkness: have no clue
Fairy: maybe something similar like herbal?
Dragon: if attached to dragon types, it probably may provide rainbow without the negative 10 self-damage?
Now to the only evolution-line introduced so far (aside from Genagr/Mega Gengar):
Zubat: Pretty cool on basic, but really; we got better Zubat's (Unleashed, e.g.)
Golbat: Even here we got better versions of this; and 1 Mr. Mime covers all its try.
Crobat: better or worse version of Chandelure (NVI) / Forretress (FLF). Cowork with Flygon (DRX), Dusknoir (BCR), LaserBank and we might get some good combo, but still: it's a stage 2 and only has 130 HP again… by assuming we also get a little lightning support because of Manectric, it'll be almost useless… don't really know what to think 'bout this. Maybe the time'll show us.
I'd like to talk 'bout Mystery energy first. It seems, that the special-typed energies mostly cover/support the specialty of its types:
Herbal energy supports self-healing specialty of grass types, 'cause many grass 'mons do something with self-healing (e.g. Chesnaught, some Venusaur, Serperior, some Bellossom, etc.)
Strong energy supports fighting type specialty of doing big damage (e.g. Landorus EX, Lucario NXD, Hawlucha, etc.)
Mystery energy'll cover many psychic types big retreat (already mentioned Trevenant/Goirgeist; Metagross,…)
If we got potential all other types, then I'm pretending foolowing:
Fire: something like reducing/stopping discarding energies after some big attacks (Flamethrower, etc.)
Lightning: reducing/stopping doing self-damage (Thunder, Bolt Strike,…)
Metal: multiplying units of energy providing due to expensive attacks (Steelix,…)
Water: I'm afraid it'll be something combined with metal/strong… many water types just add damage if attached more energies…
Darkness: have no clue
Fairy: maybe something similar like herbal?
Dragon: if attached to dragon types, it probably may provide rainbow without the negative 10 self-damage?
Now to the only evolution-line introduced so far (aside from Genagr/Mega Gengar):
Zubat: Pretty cool on basic, but really; we got better Zubat's (Unleashed, e.g.)
Golbat: Even here we got better versions of this; and 1 Mr. Mime covers all its try.
Crobat: better or worse version of Chandelure (NVI) / Forretress (FLF). Cowork with Flygon (DRX), Dusknoir (BCR), LaserBank and we might get some good combo, but still: it's a stage 2 and only has 130 HP again… by assuming we also get a little lightning support because of Manectric, it'll be almost useless… don't really know what to think 'bout this. Maybe the time'll show us.