Vulpix Yolk said:
May I have an explanation as of why you think this?
(1) Kyurem, Hydreigon, and Victini from 'Noble Victories' [9/21]
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May I have an explanation as of why you think this?
Changing Hydreigon's attack's name from Dangerous Blade to Berserker Blade was an awesome choice. Though I still wish it had something to do with flames or energy rather than blades. Other than that... It's nice to be able to see the English versions of these cards now.
Charizard3712 said:
Um, its extremely slow, has a huge attack cost of 4, which, aded to the atrocious retreat of 3 and the fact it is a stage 2 makes it one of the best examples of catcher bait, and it doesn't even have a good enough damage output to keep up with Reshiram, a basic. It also has a weakness to Donphan, one of the worst weaknesses in the meta.
Dark Void said:
His ability makes the attack cost not bad at all, a DCE will turn into two darkness energy and with two DCE on him he is ready to attack, you can also team him up with ability emboar if you wanted. Donphan will hardly be playedonce they release Cryogonal in this set. Trust me Hydreigon will see play.
Hydreigon will not see play. It has a bad matchup against literally every deck imaginable. Zekrom just catchers and kills Deinos and Zweilouses and if you ever manage to get out a Hydreigon they will just 2HKO that. Yanmega 2HKOs Hydreigon and Hydreigon 2HKOs back but it's almost impossible to set up 2 Hydreigon in a match. Donphan 2HKOs and gets 3HKOed back and yet again is way easier to set up again, also it can use catcher to kill Deinos and Zweilouses. Oh yeah, Yanmega and Donphan can also use Max Potion to make you lose a Hydreigon without getting a single KO. Gothitelle makes it nearly impossible to set up a Hydreigon and they 2HKO it anyway while using Reuniclus and Max Potion to prevent you from getting a KO. Reshiram Catchers and KOs Deinos and Zweilouses and if you get a Hydreigon up they just trade 2HKOs with that or use Typhlosions to remove DCEs. I'd say it is one of the worst rares in the set.
I love the new set symbol. I just really hope there is a sandile line in here, even though i highly doubt it 
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.What Dark Void said. Except for the part about being one of the worst rares. We don't know that yet
Hey, if Tyranitar Prime isn't being played anywhere, and Tyranitar is a downright amazing card save for its weakness to Donphan, what makes you think Hydreigon will see any play?
It won't.
Hey, if Tyranitar Prime isn't being played anywhere, and Tyranitar is a downright amazing card save for its weakness to Donphan, what makes you think Hydreigon will see any play?
It won't.
Hey it's fine everyone is thinking that hydreigon sucks just trade them all to me : )
DNA said:
Trust me when Leavanny comes out to get rid of his weakness Hydreigon will be a power house. Also Hydreigon doesn't have to be a main attacker, him and Tyranitar could be a really good combo and I may try him with Cresselia/Darkrai Legend as well to move damage counters around.
Ok 1. The set according to the Pokemon website releases the 16th while the starter decks release the 2nd. Which means they will not be allowed in decks during the fall regionals. 2. Hydreigon is a stage two which if you have played any form of magnezone or emboar or reshiram or google.dec you would know that two stage twos is very difficult. Also once you start dumping DCE on Hydreigon I will just lost remover them away or Typhlosion them away. 3. The fact that we will be getting all of red set and what was missing from the decks that they got that we did not is EPIC. 4. No chance of us getting anything from japans B&W set 3. Not a chance. 5. Kyurem is beast and so is N. Also I expect the trio to get a lot more use with the cheaper costs as techs against anything popular. IE Hydreigon although I have no clue why Kyurem and anything else. So yeah. Very very very tough set to judge. We will be getting great things but most will see very little play again. May be fun to play with but the winning decks IMO will still be what is winning now maby with a few tweaks.
Awesome! As this will probably be the last box I buy until the 6th gen (or perhaps until Keldeo, Meloetta, and/or Genesect are released in card form), I'm eagerly awaiting this set. It'll be nice to essentially finish off the Unova Pokémon in TCG form...all in under a year, too! It took longer than that for the DP cards, if I recall correctly.
volkaryie said:
Who in the world plays lost remover? And I was just saying that if my weakness for hydreigon got out of hand than I could just use leavanny when it comes out in Feb to get rid of his weakness. And I could just tech in a couple of cryogonals or maybe even kyurem to counter donphan and typhlosion since hydreigon can turn all energy on him into darkness. My argument here is that everyone is dismissing the potential of hydreigon and the fact that he is a good card.
DNA said:
I never said I would have all three in one deck, I said that leavanny could get rid of weakness if I had to or I would team hydreigon with tyranitar for a cool combo
It would be a cool combo and lost remover is played more than you would think. You can either use it or use it for Junk Arm. I was not saying Hydreigon is a bad card. Its not bad. It has the same thing as Ho-Oh legend. Problem though like stated is it is a stage two. It takes way too long. Other than the bench damage he is not really that good. Only Gengar Prime and Mismagius have a dark weakness and I rarely see them in play any more. It will be harder for him to see play. I would be surprised if he saw more play than say cobalion scizzor or steelix because of Kyurem.