A bloody rock hits Russia!

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Salamencetrainer34 said:
but we can be pretty thankful that it landed in a lake and that nobody has been reported dead,
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Actually, I think 6 people were dead. And never knew it hit a lake. Thats luck.
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It broke off into smaller pieces/debris, but the main rock landed in a lake.

Could you link to an article about the 6 people dying? I haven't seen that anywhere, I've only seen injuries, and you'd think they'd report deaths if that were the case.
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

Elite Stride said:
Salamencetrainer34 said:
Actually, I think 6 people were dead. And never knew it hit a lake. Thats luck.
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It broke off into smaller pieces/debris, but the main rock landed in a lake.

Could you link to an article about the 6 people dying? I haven't seen that anywhere, I've only seen injuries, and you'd think they'd report deaths if that were the case.
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Oh. Well, actually and honestly. I was at a computer class in school this friday, and found a article saying this. So, I admit, it was probably a lie. And note how I say I think. Sorry for that!
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

Elite Stride said:
That's because you don't seem to understand that those of us saying "awesome!" are referring to the meteorite itself. It's pretty hard to not appreciate the sight of such an event as seen in this video.

If you can find a post saying that it's awesome that 1200 people were injured, quote it, because that would be interesting to see. Of course it's horrible that it caused so much damage, but we can be pretty thankful that it landed in a lake and that nobody has been reported dead, and the majority of building damage is only broken glass. You don't exactly see things like this everyday, and if this happened near where I live, under the same circumstances, there's no way I wouldn't be saying that it was a pretty awesome thing to see firsthand.
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*the meteor

Meteoroids enter the Earth's atmosphere every day, meteor showers are pretty common as well, you only have to know where and when to look. Several hundreds of meteors actually hit the Earth every year.

I can understand them, it is just interesting.
 
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Pokequaza said:
*the meteor
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No. Meteorite.

Meteor- Refers to a piece of debris that burns up completely in the atmosphere. The term is actually referring to the flash of light which is what we know of as a 'shooting star'.

Meteorite- Refers to the debris that actually hits the earth. (as was the case in Russia)

Yes, meteoroids do enter the atmosphere very often, but they are often burned up (to the size of pebbles) by the time they reach us. So again, you don't really see what happened in Russia everyday.
 
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Elite Stride said:
Pokequaza said:
*the meteor
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No. Meteorite.

Meteor- Refers to a piece of debris that burns up completely in the atmosphere. The term is actually referring to the flash of light which is what we know of as a 'shooting star'.

Meteorite- Refers to the debris that actually hits the earth. (as was the case in Russia)

Yes, meteoroids do enter the atmosphere very often, but they are often burned up (to the size of pebbles) by the time they reach us. So again, you don't really see what happened in Russia everyday.
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You showed me an example of what people where referring to with ''awesome!'', that video showed a meteor. A meteoroid has to survive the impact to become a meteorite, the video did not contain any meteorite.
 
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Are you aware that the rock falling in that video is no longer in the atmosphere (Mesosphere)?


Meteor- Refers to a piece of debris that burns up completely in the atmosphere. The term is actually referring to the flash of light which is what we know of as a 'shooting star'.
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A meteor would have been burned up in the Mesosphere, and the rock in the video is clearly far from burned up. Heck, it was still 10 metric tons when it landed, so it was obviously even bigger at that point in the video. In any case, the term meteor isn't even referring to the rock itself, so the term meteor isn't appropriate anyway.

Pokequaza said:
A meteoroid has to survive the impact to become a meteorite
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What do you mean 'survive the impact'? It's considered a meteorite regardless of what happens on impact.
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

Elite Stride said:
Are you aware that the rock falling in that video is no longer in the atmosphere (Mesosphere)?


Meteor- Refers to a piece of debris that burns up completely in the atmosphere. The term is actually referring to the flash of light which is what we know of as a 'shooting star'.
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A meteor would have been burned up in the Mesosphere, and the rock in the video is clearly far from burned up. Heck, it was still 10 metric tons when it landed, so it was obviously even bigger at that point in the video. In any case, the term meteor isn't even referring to the rock itself, so the term meteor isn't appropriate anyway.

Pokequaza said:
A meteoroid has to survive the impact to become a meteorite
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What do you mean 'survive the impact'? It's considered a meteorite regardless of what happens on impact.
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It is still in the atmosphere, an atmosphere is the layer of gas surrounding an object with suffient mass to hold the gas in its gravitational pull. The air at ground level is also part of the atmosphere.

The video showed a meteor, the result of a meteoroid. The object itself is still referred to as meteoroid as it has yet to impact on a solid object. However the only visible part, after a meteoroid has entered the atmosphere, is the meteor, hence why it is usually referred to as a meteor. In this case it can also be called a fireball as it is of sufficient brightness.

A meteorite is the result of a meteoroid that survived the impact with the surface of Earth, they are the objects that are being found after impact. Anyway, let us look at an official definition:

Oxford Dictionary said:
Definition of meteorite
noun
a piece of rock or metal that has fallen to the earth’s surface from outer space as a meteor. Over 90 per cent of meteorites are of rock while the remainder consist wholly or partly of iron and nickel.
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The point is that if it manages to make a way through the atmosphere of Earth, but burns up during impact, there would be nothing left to give a name, therefore it has to survive the impact in order to 'become' a meteorite.
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

Of course the atmosphere comes to ground level, I made a clear note that I was discussing the Mesosphere..

All astronomical terms aside, it's just proper English to refer to it as it is currently classified. Especially within the context I used it. We already know that it hit the earth, and so when we describe what it was doing days prior, we're still going to refer to it as a meteorite. If I had been posting while it was entering the outer atmosphere, then yes my terminology would be improper because it had not yet hit the earth.

To be completely honest, none of this even matters. I was posting about "the meteorite itself", wholly. There is no reason to restrict the terminology to any one period of time during it's travel to the surface. The video is only a visual aid, the entire process is "awesome!", not just the video.
 
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For the record, ES is correct. It is a meteorite.
That, and awesome has been misunderstood. To be awesome, it needs to awe. When someone is in awe, it's like a state of disbelief/shock.
That said, this event is awesome, both in the terms of how nature works, and awesome in the terms of those poor, injured, and unfortunate souls.
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

Elite Stride said:
Of course the atmosphere comes to ground level, I made a clear note that I was discussing the Mesosphere..

All astronomical terms aside, it's just proper English to refer to it as it is currently classified. Especially within the context I used it. We already know that it hit the earth, and so when we describe what it was doing days prior, we're still going to refer to it as a meteorite. If I had been posting while it was entering the outer atmosphere, then yes my terminology would be improper because it had not yet hit the earth.

To be completely honest, none of this even matters. I was posting about "the meteorite itself", wholly. There is no reason to restrict the terminology to any one period of time during it's travel to the surface. The video is only a visual aid, the entire process is "awesome!", not just the video.
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Then you should agree that ''is no longer in the atmosphere'' is wrong, since the mesosphere is a part of the atmosphere.

And as I said as well, I was referring solely to the video, since that was my only given source of information on which I could comment on.

There is, that is how we classify these objects any given time, well, that is how we properly do it, otherwise you get these blatantly wrong terms as ''Asteroid hits Russia!''.
 
RE: Asteroid hits Russia!

You guys are seriously arguing over the title?

I just wanted to get the story on the forums so people could discuss it. You know? It's not a common thing to catch stuff like this.
If all your wasted energy was focused on the story itself...instead of arguing about the title this topic would have a LOT more going for it.

My 2 cents.
 
Did you read the discussion that we just had? If you did, you would notice that nobody is arguing over your title. I'm actually quite convinced that if we didn't just argue those points, this thread would still have just one page of "discussion" (because that was hardly discussion going on), since there's not a whole lot to discuss about the story itself.

Not to mention, that conversation was 100% on topic.

So you're welcome. :p
 
otherwise you get these blatantly wrong terms as ''Asteroid hits Russia!''.

Maybe I took that out of context then. :p
 
That was one little side comment by one person. Although the title is coincidentally related to what we were talking about, the discussion was never about the title, it was about the use of the word in my post.

But as we've established, it really doesn't matter anyway. If we want to get technical, the (now meteorite) could very well have been part of an asteroid that broke off in space somewhere. So if you really wanted to call it an asteroid, nobody is going to crucify you over it, this is a Pokemon forum, not an astronomy forum. Although I do like the new name, lol!
 
I like how everyone just keeps driving and doesn't react, lol. But really, I do think it's cool, but highly dangerous. inb4 meteor crashing into earth prevention program.
 
We should make a giant laser, and fire it to alter the meteors course! If you get reference, you get a cookie.

Sorry Equinox, I had too.
 
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