Help Are these cards good?

Lord Goomy

Lord Goomy

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There are a few cards I’d like some opinions on. Nobody plays them, but they could be awesome.
Before you respond “No. Bad. Don’t use it.” please see both sides of he issue. These are the cards:
Misty’s Determination:
It’s a not used card, but why? You can throw away any card from your hand, just one, to search the top 8 cards of your deck. It can come in handy a whole lot. I know it’s the supporter for turn, but still.
Maintenance:
You’re probably looking this one up. It says to shuffle two cards from your hand into your deck and draw a card. It has some potential as a great card if you need to save some stuff from a Sycamore or if you just need a card.
Trevor:
Well? What’s not to like?
Great Ball:
I can’t see why people don’t use this. It doesn’t allow for full deck searching but if you have a lot of Pokémon then it might not be terrible.
Cassius:
It’s a very nice tech! Shuffle in a Pokémon isn’t a bad effect.
Repeat Ball:
It’s extremely good! If you have the Pokémon, you can search for it. It finds a second Tapu Lele or a second Regirock EX, or even maybe other Pokémon.
I’m thinking here.
You think too.
 
I'll tell you one thing, maintenance won't get play purely because of garbodor. I mean its a niche tech card in case you're going against a wall deck, it can keep ur deck count high by shuffling 2 and drawing one.

And anything that let's you "search the top 7 cards of your deck" isn't ideal, even with half your deck remaining, it's letting you search less that 1\4th of your de k for the card you need. Almost every card like that has an alternative option that let's you search your ENTIRE deck
 
Trevor is not used because it pretty much wastes your supporter for the turn and you could just use an ultra ball and sycamore later or anything.

Maintenance IS used in archie's Blastoise because it allows for further modification of your hand size. But other than that, it is pretty useless.

Why would you use Cassius when you could use AZ or Acerola? It forces you to search for those resources again.

Repeat Ball is not used because most of the time you are searching for a card you DON'T have already eg: a starmie for your staryu or a turtonator GX that you don't have already (I'm a volcanion player).

Misty's determination may sound good, but it is overall lackluster in general. If the card you want is in the top 8 cards, you could just sycamore and most likely get that card AND get some other goodies.

Hope that was enough explanation for you!
 
Misty's Determination:
I like and still use it! I added it to decks to look for just that one card like DCE, and it lets you check the top 8 for 1 discard as opposed to say Sycamore discarding everything and drawing 7. I still keep it for that purpose over Energy Lotto because while it is your supporter for the turn you're guaranteed to grab something with it even if it isn't quite the perfect card you were hoping for.

Maintenance:
Its got bad math. Shuffle 2 and draw 1 means you're exchanging 3 resources including Maintenance from your hand to draw 1 which might be 1 of the 2 you shuffled back.

Trevor:
It's outclassed by Ultra Ball for searching for Pokemon, most other supporters for your one a turn, and an ACE Spec (Master Ball) with what you could include as a one per deck. It's no risk, no reward.

Great Ball:
Like Trevor, it's outclassed by other forms of Pokemon search. It compares to Max Elixir searching for a card from the top of your deck, but unlike Max Elixir you don't need this kind of risky acceleration to search for Pokemon.

Cassius:
Cassius saw play for a short time when there was no way to preserve special energy in play. With Acerola allowing you to bring everything to your hand and immediately getting to reuse those resources in situations where you want to preserve something damaged on the field and Special Charge recycling special energy its lost its niche use.

Repeat Ball:
Repeat Ball can be a good card if you have lot of the same Pokemon in the deck, but it's limited on what can be targeted based on what you already have on the field. If you're searching for a Pokemon it often is one you don't have out and that's why you're searching for it. It could've seen a lot more use if it could search out previous evolutions on the field with this evolution heavy format.

TLDR: These cards each have niche uses and there's just typically other cards to dedicate deck space to that fit a wider use.
 
A common issue as to why none of these see play is because they are not consistent. Misty's Determination MIGHT give you one card you need, you MIGHT draw a card you need with Maintenance, Great Ball MIGHT get you the Pokémon you're looking for. Every card listed here has a better, more optimal option.

Repeat Ball does see play in Greninja sometimes.
 
Maintenance is outright bad. 3 cards for 1 is not good math. Misty saw a little bit of play in Mega Mewtwo a season or two ago, because early game, you could Discard an Energy for the Misty's and get a Mega Turbo. Great Ball and Trevor are far outclassed by multiple forms of Pokemon search. Both are outclassed by Pokemon Communication, which is actually a great card that still sees no play. Cassius was mediocre when AZ was around, then it rotaTed. It was amazing in Primal Groudon, but now It's just a worse Acerola. And Repeat Ball was played in Bats early on back then since most Bats lines were 4-4-3. To put it simply, all these cards are outclassed by something much better that get the job done so well, there's no reason to compensate for only 4.
 
Just dropping by to say I have merged the duplicate threads together here~
 
The problem with all these cards is they are inferior to other cards, situational and/or inconsistent which is not acceptable in building an effective deck. You only get 60 cards for a deck and you need all 60 to be as good as possible.

Misty's Determination - Costs you your supporter and a card for an unreliable deck deck search. You could just Sycamore and get all 7 cards

Maintenance - It's a -2 in terms of card advantage while also bulking up your deck which makes you less likely to draw the cards you need. There is no redeeming quality to this card outside of medicore combos with it.

Trevor - It's a supporter that is doing the job a trainer does just as well. Losing your supporter for the turn does not make up for the two cards you keep in hand from ultra ball.

Great Ball - Inconsistent and outclassed by Ultra Ball

Cassius - Outclassed by AZ/Acerrola

Repeat Ball - Situational and outclassed by Ultra Ball
 
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