Ruling babys

[Bix]

quick q. i was noticing that in like in the secret wonders rule book they have the baby rule which is a.) under "In What order do you attack" section and in rising rivals rulebook they took it out. So it is gone then?? u dont have to flip to attack a baby n e more then right???

 

[TDA]

This is exactly what i wanted to ask,could anyone please clarify?
Also can we use baby evolution pokepower to evolve on the same turn the pokemon comes into play?

 

[Futa]

quick q. I was noticing that in like in the secret wonders rule book they have the baby rule which is a.) under "In What order do you attack" section and in rising rivals rulebook they took it out. So it is gone then?? u don't have to flip to attack a baby n e more then right?

Yes, you answered your own question. You don't have to flip anymore when you attack with Baby Pokemon.

This is exactly what I wanted to ask,could anyone please clarify?
Also can we use baby evolution pokepower to evolve on the same turn the pokemon comes into play?

I'm not completely sure, but I do believe that you can. It is a Poke Power.

 

[reclaimer94]

no, in the poke-power, it says "this counts as evolving", so unless you have BTS out, you need to wait

 

[sillykyle]

no, in the poke-power, it says "this counts as evolving", so unless you have BTS out, you need to wait

Yes you can. Rare candy also says "this counts as evolving" and you can use it on the turn you play the pokemon.

 

[TDA]

Its the same with rare candy and evoluter(the words)so it would be nice to be clarified.

 

[Bane]

This is an odd one, and since the rule book seems to neglect saying anything about it, we have to play as we read it(on the card).

Thus, since it says we may place the card on top of the other, not stating we may evolve it, it is a legal move to put the pokemon on top the first turn it comes down. I guess that's why the cards say "If so and so has baby pokemon underneath it, so and so may do this." Not that if it(or it's previous form) evolved from it.

The "Counts as evolving" is there as a statement merely saying you can not evolve the pokemon you just placed on top of the last one. Read it more as "when the card is placed on the baby pokemon, it counts as having evolved this turn."

 

[SourMilk]

I would have to say you can't because the Power itself doesn't cause the evolution, so in other words, you need to be evolve normally before the Power can be used.

 

[Futa]

I would have to say you can't because the Power itself doesn't cause the evolution, so in other words, you need to be evolve normally before the Power can be used.

Didn't you read what Bane posted? You can evolve the Pokemon. The power is causing the evolution, as you are placing a Pokemon that evolves from that Pokemon on top of it by using the effect of the Pokemon. Just like what Bane said, when it counts as evolving you can't evolve it again on that same turn (unless you have BTS and stuff.)

 

[Bane]

Didn't you read what Bane posted? You can evolve the Pokemon. The power is causing the evolution, as you are placing a Pokemon that evolves from that Pokemon on top of it by using the effect of the Pokemon. Just like what Bane said, when it counts as evolving you can't evolve it again on that same turn (unless you have BTS and stuff.)

Actually, I said it allows you to place(also read as put, at times) the pokemon it names. Place is a different term from evolution. Place doesn't have any set rules(evolution requires the card you need out to be out for a turn, and playing supporters can only happen once a turn), except that you can only do it when a card says so, but is often put with other text on a card that limits it(and you have to follow the card as close as possible). If the card stated "Evolve Pichu into Pikachu" then you wouldn't be able to play it right away, even if it said "place".

Earlier baby pokemon read "evolves into" rather than only "put on", so they couldn't do what these can. Of course, they were a lot more powerful back then...

This is why, if a pokemon had an attack or ability that allowed you to search your deck and "put on a tool card", it would also most likely state "as long as it doesn't have a tool card attached."

 

[DNA]

The thing about the Baby Rule only applied to baby Pokemon before EX Ruby&Sapphire, when they had the potential to end the opponent's turn instantly when attacked. (And yes, they said 'Evolves into', and 'Put ____ on the Baby Pokemon'. Baby was its own stage.) Any new babies with the 'Baby Evolution' Poke-Power must be evolved by using the Poke-Power. They cannot be evolved any other way, because on neither the new Electabuzz or Elekid can you evolve the latter into the formal by normal means - the Poke-Power must be used. Therefore, if Glaceon Lv. X is active (or you have something like Fossil Muk, Muk ex, or Ampharos PL), babies cannot be evolved (in the case of the last one, only if they have damage counters).

 

[b1ackspidey]

Q. For the Pokémon with the power "Baby Evolution", can I use this power to attach its evolved form on the same turn it comes into play?
A. Baby Evolution can be played on the first turn that Pokémon is in play, even if it is the first turn of the game. (Sep 11, 2003 PUI Rules Team; Jul 22, 2004 PUI Rules Team)

 

[Bix]

The thing about the Baby Rule only applied to baby Pokemon before EX Ruby&Sapphire, when they had the potential to end the opponent's turn instantly when attacked. (And yes, they said 'Evolves into', and 'Put ____ on the Baby Pokemon'. Baby was its own stage.) Any new babies with the 'Baby Evolution' Poke-Power must be evolved by using the Poke-Power. They cannot be evolved any other way, because on neither the new Electabuzz or Elekid can you evolve the latter into the formal by normal means - the Poke-Power must be used. Therefore, if Glaceon Lv. X is active (or you have something like Fossil Muk, Muk ex, or Ampharos PL), babies cannot be evolved (in the case of the last one, only if they have damage counters).

Al lof my questions have been answered thnx. but DNA when u said The thing about the Baby Rule only applied to baby Pokemon before EX Ruby&Sapphire, when they had the potential to end the opponent's turn instantly when attacked. isnt true cus at the begining of diamond and pearl it was the same thing. its in the secret wonders rule book. but now its gone again

 

[DNA]

Compare these two cards:

I'm talking about the one on the left. They were only in Neo sets, and iirc some of the E-Reader sets. However, no Babies on Ruby&Sapphire and onward were 'baby Pokemon', they were 'Basic Pokemon'.

They had that rule for people playing with older cards.