Ruling Can you help me help my kids out?

[SSILVER89]

Okay my good people, I’m a rookie at Pokemon TCG, and my total mission is to learn all I can about it so I can #1) teach my daughter and her friends the proper way to play the game and #2) learn the game well enough so I can organize a league for the area that I live in. Or at least do something for the area kids. I’ve never even played a single game, never attended a tourney, never even watched a game played by others…. But it makes my kids happy and I’m not afraid to say that I’m starting to get hooked myself. I’ve bought several cards and acquired several cards from people that no longer collect them. I have about 6,000 cards now, in just 3 months of collecting. YES, I’m crazy! But I have an agenda to it.

Can I get some questions answered here? This by far is one of the better sites I’ve seen on the game…. So what the heck, can you help a brother out????

A)Resistance? If a Grass type has a resistance to a Water type, it says to use a (-30) less damage. Does that mean if you got a weak Water pokemon on the other side who’s attack only does 10 damage, that it will not faze my Grass type no matter how many times he uses that 10 damage move? Or does it just start out at -30 and then start eating at my Hit Points?

B)Old cards? If I’m reading things correctly, unless you have a newer series of card, a lot of the older version card that I acquired would NOT be used in tournament play… Is there any reasons why? (other than the obvious – to sell more cards) How about in League play? Are older versions acceptable in gameplay? Or do they make you stick to tourney rules?

C)Deck Building summary…. Is there some reason why most decks that are built around one or two types? Can you tell me why loading up on a specific type is better than mixing several different types? If I load up an all fighting type deck…. What’s to stop an opponent from tossing out the type of opposing cards that have a resistance to fighting and ruining any chance of my deck winning?

D)Deck building #2 -- You can have up to 4 of the same type of card, I have that. But it said you can’t put more than one “superstar card” card in the deck…. How can I distinguish that type from the other cards…. I have a lot of cards that say “ – EX” on them, is this the type they mean?

 

[Lieutenant Houndoom]

A)Resistance?   If a Grass type has a resistance to a Water type, it says to use a (-30) less damage.   Does that mean if you got a weak Water pokemon on the other side who’s attack only does 10 damage, that it will not faze  my Grass type no matter how many times he uses that 10 damage move?   Or does it just start out at -30 and then start eating at my Hit Points?

If something with resistance is against something with said type matchup, if the damage is below 30 it does nothing. Then if it does anything higher, the damage is shaved off.

B)Old cards?   If I’m reading things correctly, unless you have a newer series of card, a lot of the older version card that I acquired would NOT be used in tournament play…   Is there any reasons why? (other than the obvious – to sell more cards)   How about in League play?   Are older versions acceptable in gameplay? Or do they make you stick to tourney rules?

WEll, as the ratio for energy:damage was almost 1:1 in the olden days, they put anything they felt like to bost it up, like double-colourless energies. This, for example, makes Nidoqueen Jungle's [G][G][C][C] 50 attack into a 3 energy for 50. But now, most energy:damage ratios are closer to 2:1 and possibly higher, and thus doesn't need the boost.

C)Deck Building summary….    Is there some reason why most decks that are built around one or two types?   Can you tell me why loading up on a specific type is better than mixing several different types?   If I load up an all fighting type deck….  What’s to stop an opponent from tossing out the type of opposing cards that have a resistance to fighting and ruining any chance of my deck winning?

In these days, multiple-energy supplier are so abunant type doesn't play such a large factor in decks. Single-type decks may insert some card to counter weakness, or they just play a card that removes weakness in general. People generally pick a combo first and go with it, supplying the relevant energies.

D)Deck building #2 --  You can have up to 4 of the same type of card, I have that.   But it said you can’t put more than one “superstar card” card in the deck….  How can I distinguish that type from the other cards….   I have a lot of cards that say “ – EX” on them, is this the type they mean?

Actually, there are currently three types that aren't counted as the same. Star* cards, are rare, only allowed for 1 in a deck, but mainly are not very good to play, expect for the DX stars. EX's, they appear at the end of every set, and are superpowered versions, but the drawback is the 2 prize card rule. They are generally stronger by their Bodies or Powers, or just the fact that their Damage:energy ratio is higher. Most Stage-2 EX's have 3:8 ratio+special effect, many stage 1's have a 2:1 (6:3) ratio+special effect, but it really depends on what the special effect is.

So you can have 4 Regice EX, 4 Regice EM, and 1 Regice* in a deck.
But, the new δ types you may hear of, the δ part isn't counted as part of their name, so you can have...2 Latias, 2 Latias δ, 2 Latias EX, 2 Latias EX δ, and 1 Latias*. Thus said, the maximum amount of Pokémon with the same name anywhere should be 9. Until DP comes out...

 

[SSILVER89]

Thank you my good man.... One more for ya... Prize cards??? You put the 6 out there.... Your opponent takes 1 (or 2) when he KO's one of your active Pokemen.... After the match do you hand the Prize cards back to your opponent? Or do you keep them forever and ruin the "decks" that you and him/her worked to create?

 

[Arcanine 274]

I'm not sure I understand your question. Here's what happens when you take a prize.

Player A's Horsea does 10 damage.
Player B's Lickitung is Knocked Out!
Player A draws 1 of their prize cards.

Player B's turn starts.

Understand? When you knock the Defending Pokemon out, you take your prize card, not your Opponent's.

I think that's what you got confused on. Either that or I'm a ditz and didn't read your question right =D

Arcanine out.

 

[SSILVER89]

Okay, I got it. Thank you!

 

[Arcanine 274]

I think what you're saying is when you lose one of your Pokemon, the Opponent takes one of your prizes, correct?

If so, I'm sorry, but that is not the correct thing to do.  What you are supposed to do, if this is indeed what you are asking me (I'm sorry if it's not), is take one of your own prize cards, instead of your Opponents.

I'm really sorry if this is not what you're asking me, since I'm screwing up all over the place today .

Edit: Oh wait..you edited XD. Alright then, you're welcome

Arcanine out.

 

[Heavenly Spoon]

I don't think you understand what prize cards are...
Prize cards are card YOU take from YOUR deck at the beginning of the game, you take 1 (or 2) of YOUR prize cards if you knock an opponent's Pokémon. At the end of the game, shuffle the prize cards back into your deck. You can't ever win any cards of your opponent, that would just be wrong

 

[mightyena7]

If you have a grass pokemon and your vs. a water type pokemon then no matter what the attack still lowers by 30.

 

[MANAPHY=)]

well myteana some grass are not always resistance to water the only grass type i can think of that are resitant to water are treeco grovyle and sceptile also when you wanted to know about the prize cards you take one if you knock out a normal card or star are koed and you take 2 if you ko a pokemon that is an ex b/c exs are harder to take down.

 

[PMJ]

Okay yes, we've established that guys.

The topic creator's questions have been answered. Let's not post in this topic anymore unless he has more questions to ask. I'll leave this topic open for that end.

 

[ze_draeck]

@PMJ: srry, i need to clear this out, just in case

@m1's answer on question c: Let's say that theres a Pokémon Called Pokeyed okay.

the Exact number of Pokeyed's is:
4 Pokeyed/4 Pokeyed d/4 Pokeyed lvl. X or any combination of them
4 Pokeyed Ex
4 Dark Pokeyed
4 Light Pokeyed
4 Rockets Pokeyed
4 Rocket's Pokeyed Ex
1 Shining Pokeyed
1 Pokeyed-Star

(Dpn't know about the Crystal Body's ones)

as you can see, they all have 1 thing in Comnnen. A different Name. As Long as there something in the name (Without Levels and Delta Species) you can have four of it

 

[PMJ]

He didn't mention all that other stuff because it's illegal for Modified. And why not just use a real Pokemon name? It's just an example. Crystal Body doesn't mean anything. Just because Charizard is Colorless and not Fire doesn't mean you can have 8 Charizard in your deck. Name is all that matters.

 

[Light Venusaur]

This is the right way.
Ok, lets use the Charmander evo line for this:
4x Charmander or 4x Charmader d' or Blanie's Charmander
4x Charmeleon or 4x Charmeleon d' or 4x Blaine's Charmeleon
4x Charizard or 4x Charizard d' or 4x Cyrstal Charizard or 4x Charizard ex
1x Shining Charizard or 1x Charizard *
This is per-deck!

 

[Lieutenant Houndoom]

This is the right way.
Ok, lets use the Charmander evo line for this:
4x Charmander or 4x Charmander δ or Blanie's Charmander or 4x Dark Charmander
4x Charmeleon or 4x Charmeleon δ or 4x Blaine's Charmeleon or 4x Dark Charmeleon
4x Charizard or 4x Charizard δ Blaine's Charizard or 4x Cyrstal Charizard or 4x Charizard ex or 4x Dark Charizard or 4x Light Charizard
1x Shining Charizard or 1x Charizard *
This is per-deck!

Fix'd.

 

[Light Venusaur]

This is the right way.
Ok, lets use the Charmander evo line for this:
4x Charmander or 4x Charmander δ or Blanie's Charmander
4x Charmeleon or 4x Charmeleon δ or 4x Blaine's Charmeleon or 4x Dark Charmeleon
4x Charizard or 4x Charizard δ 4x Blaine's Charizard or 4x Cyrstal Charizard or 4x Charizard ex or 4x Dark Charizard
1x Shining Charizard or 1x Charizard *
This is per-deck!

Fix'd.

There's NO Dark Charmander or Light Charizard!

 

[Abhorsen]

There is no Crystal Charizard. The one from Skyridge isn't called Crystal Charizard, it's just Charizard.

Also to mention something about δ-Pokemon. They are NOT called "Pokemon-δ". The δ is not part of the Pokemon's name, it's completely separate from the name itself. Charizard from Crystal Guardians isn't called 'Charizard-δ', it's just Charizard. People constantly use the δ next to its name (like any δ typed Pokemon) simply for reference, it's not part of the name.

 

[Lieutenant Houndoom]

This is the right way.
Ok, lets use the Charmander evo line for this:
4x Charmander or 4x Charmander δ or Blanie's Charmander
4x Charmeleon or 4x Charmeleon δ or 4x Blaine's Charmeleon or 4x Dark Charmeleon
4x Charizard or 4x Charizard δ 4x Blaine's Charizard or 4x Cyrstal Charizard or 4x Charizard ex or 4x Dark Charizard
1x Shining Charizard or 1x Charizard *
This is per-deck!

Fix'd.

There's NO Dark Charmander or Light Charizard!

Doesn't matter. We could have use Pokémon X. Dark X, Light X, X EX, TA/TM's X...

 

[PMJ]

Normal cards and delta cards have the same name.

ex, *, Dark, Light, an owner, or Shining ALL make cards different. So, including illegalness, every type of card you can have in your deck, using Jasmine and Erika as examples because they're hot and I like them:

4x Mew
4x Mew ex
1x Mew *
1x Shining Mew
4x Dark Mew
4x Light Mew
4x Jasmine's Mew
4x Jasmine's Mew ex
4x Erika's Mew
4x Erika's Mew ex

(you are limited to 1 Pokemon * and 1 Shining Pokemon (in this case, Mew) in your deck).

Shining Pokemon and Pokemon * ARE NOT THE SAME. I know someone will ask that, there's your answer. NOT THE SAME. The rules aren't even the same; you can have only one copy of a Shining Pokemon in your deck, but you could have multiple Shining Pokemon (i.e. Shining Raichu and Shining Steelix (gag) in the same deck). You are allowed 1 Pokemon *, period, in your entire deck. This means that Latias * and Metagross * in the same deck is not only ridiculous, but horribly illegal. Got it?

Now if you really wanted to be stupid and split hairs and say, "BUT PMJ WOT ABOUT JASMEIN'S DARK MEW EX LOL? U COULD DO THAT RITE??" the answer is no because no actual type of that card exists.

And for the idiot who would post saying "LOL U 4GOT BROCK AND EVRY1 ELSE!!!", to that I would tell you to do things that would probably get me banned from this site. No duh I didn't put them, it would not make any sense at all to do so since I'd have the hugest list ever (and you'd have more than 60 cards in your deck).

This is every possiblity. Mightyena and Mightyena δ have the same name.

If δ was part of its name, it would be in bold near the name. δ is a classification of a card. Nothing more. Like Abhorsen said, we only bother to say "Mightyena δ" so everyone knows what we're talking about. It's no different than putting a set name before or after a Pokemon's name.

There are five cards in Modified named "Manectric." If I post a deck list and say "4x Manectric", there's no way anyone would know which Manectric I'm talking about since there are 5 to choose from (yes I know they aren't all good, it is possible for me to use any of them in a deck). If I say "Omastar δ", you all know I'm talking about the one from Holon Phantoms. But if I only say "Omastar", I could be talking about the one from PK as well.

Mightyena ex and Mightyena are different.

Mightyena ex and Mightyena δ are different.

I don't see how I can be any clearer. We're done here. Everyone go away.