Ruling Can you Rare Candy from a basic to a Lv. X?

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If you can does it have to be benched or active? If you can't how do you go about using Rare Candies. I already checked the Lv. X ?'s thread and it didn't answer.
 
PMJ said:
Pokémon LV.X are newly introduced in the Diamond and Pearl expansion, and with them comes many questions. This information taken from the Mysterious Treasures rulebook should cover any questions a player has regarding Pokémon LV.X. I've also added an FAQ below that for any questions you may have, along with a couple Compendium rulings to help as well.

Special Rules for Pokémon LV.X



Pokémon LV.X can't be played on the turn that Pokémon had evolved. (For example, if your evolved your Pokémon to Magmortar this turn, you could not play Magmorter LV.X on that Pokémon.)
When a Pokémon LV.X is played, it keeps all cards attached to it as well as any damage counters it already had. It also keeps all attacks, Poké-Powers, and Poké-Bodies from the earlier level.
When a Pokémon LV.X is played, it removes all Special Conditions and other effects from that Pokémon.
For deck construction, Pokémon LV.X count as that Pokémon. (You can only have 4 Magmortar in your deck - it could be 2 Magmortar and 2 Magmortar LV.X, but not 4 of each.)
Pokémon LV.X are not Evolution cards. When in play, they keep the same Evolution Stage of their earlier level. Thus, when Magmortar LV.X is in play, it is considered a Stage 1 Evolved Pokémon.
If an effect removes the highest Stage Evolution card from a Pokémon LV. X, Pokémon LV.X is not considered an evolution card. Instead, you would remove the earlier evolution that the Pokémon LV.X is on top of, and then remove the Pokémon LV.X as it no longer matches the requirements for being played.

PMJ note: I asked myself, "What happens to the Pokémon LV.X?" A search of the Compendium gave me an answer:



The Compendium Wrote:
Q. If I use Dialga's "Flash Cannon" to attack my opponent's Infernape LV.X, what happens?
A. Dialga's Flash Cannon attack would remove the highest Stage Evolution card, in this case, the regular Infernape. You would also remove Infernape LV.X too since the Pokémon is no longer an Infernape. The LV.X goes wherever the Stage 2 goes. (Diamond & Pearl FAQ; May 31, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

Good to know.



And now, the FAQ:



The Compendium Wrote:
Q. Can I use Meteor Falls with my LV.X Pokémon?
A. The Pokémon LV.X keeps the "evolution state" of its previous card. So if it's on top of a Stage 2 Evolved Pokémon, it is still a Stage 2 and an evolved Pokémon. So with Meteor Falls and Torterra LV.X in play you can still use the the attacks from Grotle and Turtwig . (May 3, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Celio's Network to search my deck for a Pokémon LV.X?
A. Yes, you can. Earlier card references of "Basic Pokémon or Evolution card" refers to Pokémon in general, which includes Pokémon LV.X. (May 10, 2007 PUI Rules Team

Q. Can I use Professor Elm's Training Method to search my deck for a Pokémon LV.X?
A. No. Pokémon LV.X are not considered Evolution cards. (May 3, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

Q. If I use Rare Candy to put an Empoleon on my Piplup, can I then immediately put Empoleon LV.X on top of that?
A. No, you may not. Just like you cannot use Rare Candy to attach a Stage 1 then evolve it into a Stage 2 on the same turn, you cannot place a LV.X Pokémon on top of a Pokémon that used Rare Candy on that same turn. (May 31, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I play a LV.X Pokémon on one of my Benched Pokémon?
A. No, you can only attach a LV.X card to a Pokémon when it is Active. It says so on the card. (May 10, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

Q. If I retreat or switch to make a Pokémon LV.X no longer active, do I have to remove the LV.X card?
A. No, benching a Pokémon LV.X retains its leveled-up status. (May 10, 2007 PUI Rules Team)

If you have any questions or suggestions for changes to the FAQ, PM me.
 
No, LV already wrote it, if you READ. The answer is no. The reason is because a Lv.X is not an evolved Pokemon. It must be in the form it saids it needs.
 
If you did not know this, if you start with a Darkrai active, and a darkrai X in your hand, you can lvl. up immedietly. Leveling up does not count as evolving. as for the rare candy. No you cannot. on a rare candy it says " place a stage 1 or stage 2 Pokemon that evolves from this pokemon onto this pokemon (this counts as evolving)" so no, you cannot because a lvl. X is not a stage 1 or stage 2, no matter what pokemon it is for. Even if you could, it would be a stupid move to do it, because you could lvl. up right from the start for basics. it also HAS to be active, no matter what
 
Again, no. You have to wait a turn to lv up a poke you drop down. Its follows the same rules as evolution with more restrictions.
 
Leveling Up is not Evolving. So Rare Candy is useless for a Level X, as it's not an evolution that you can RC to.

Leveling Up does obey all the same restrictions as Evolving, though. So you can't level up on the first turn of the game, you can't level up a Pokemon on its first turn in play, and you can't level up a Pokemon that previously evolved on the same turn.

Lastly, you can only level up a Pokemon while it's Active. That's printed on the Level Up card ("Put this card onto your Active [name]").
 
Lets have a look @ a Lv.X more closely.
Lets use Lucario Lv.X as the example.
It Clearly reads: Put onto Lucario:
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So you can't evo Riolu into Lucario Lv.X, end of story.
 
On the other hand, the point of Rare Candy is to skip the Stage 1 evolution or to bypass the evolution rules. After all, you can use Rare Candy to, say, evolve Bellsprout straight into Victreebel, even though Victreebel says to place below Weepinbell.

Form what I gather, however, Rare Candy can't be used with a Level X because a Level X card is neither a Basic Pokémon, a Stage 1 Pokémon, or a Stage 2 Pokémon. Level X's seem to be in a class by themselves. In addition, playing a Level X card isn't called evolution; it's referred to as "leveling up." Thus, a card can only let you bypass the leveling up rules if it specifically says "level up" on the card itself. (I don't know of any cards that do anything like this presently, but there is the possibility.)

Do I have that about right?
 
Ophie said:
On the other hand, the point of Rare Candy is to skip the Stage 1 evolution or to bypass the evolution rules. After all, you can use Rare Candy to, say, evolve Bellsprout straight into Victreebel, even though Victreebel says to place below Weepinbell.

Yes, but there's a chain that allows that. Weepinbell says "Evolves from Bellsprout". Victreebel says "Evolves from Weepinbell". Hence the Stage 2 card "evolves from" the Basic, which is precisely what Rare Candy calls for.

Level X cards don't "evolve from" anything. Neither do Basics (in the case of Baby Evolution). Hence why Rare Candy can't be used on these.

Ophie said:
Form what I gather, however, Rare Candy can't be used with a Level X because a Level X card is neither a Basic Pokémon, a Stage 1 Pokémon, or a Stage 2 Pokémon. Level X's seem to be in a class by themselves. In addition, playing a Level X card isn't called evolution; it's referred to as "leveling up." Thus, a card can only let you bypass the leveling up rules if it specifically says "level up" on the card itself. (I don't know of any cards that do anything like this presently, but there is the possibility.)

Do I have that about right?

I'd say you have it exactly right.
 
I will edit the FAQ with these questions.
 
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