Discussion Card Battle Ep.7: Parallel City VS Sky Field

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Hello Pokebeach members and TCG players. This is the seventh CARD BATTLE thread. After we shocked about the news of early BREAKThrough openings, and one of them is the phenomenal Parallel City, and the famous Sky Field of the ROS. In speaking of that, what these two bench-related Stadium cards differ?

Sky Field - makes both players can play up to 8 Benched Pokemon.Becomes 5 when this card is been replaced. (good for bench-related Pokemon like Raichu (XY))

Parallel City - depends on the card position, the player's attacks on their Grass, Fire, and Water Pokemon is -20 damage(good for non-Grass,Fire, and Water decks),or the player can play only up to 3 Benched Pokemon.(good as anti-Raichu)

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So from these cards featured today, which for you is the best card? Share your opinions with us. Don't be afraid to share,guys. By the way, thank you for your participation on my CARD BATTLE thread. If you missed my 6 past CARD BATTLE threads, please search them, and share your opinion about my featured topics. We will aim for 12+ comments per thread.
 
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The short version (by my standards ;) ) is that Sky Field is ultimately the better of the two, though both hold much promise. Sky Field can be dropped on your own turn so that you can fill up your Bench and we have many effects that work well with a large Bench. Parallel City either causes -20 damage for Grass, Fire and Water-Types or shrinks the Bench down to three places, depending upon which side of it you sit. Generally speaking, decks that make use of Sky Field do so for their own benefit while decks that use Parallel City are going to be trying to mess with opponents, so in the end I have to favor Sky Field.
 
Defensive Stadiums are never super great. Since they can be counter on ur opponents turn and then provide nothing. Though if used in combination with ninetales. It could be pretty devastating with parallel city.
 
If shiftry was still legal i would say that parallel city would be the best card in a heartbeat. BUT without an effective strategy that relies on your opponent having few to no pokemon in play, i think skyfield is just more universally better as so many pokemon have effects when played or on the bench.
 
If shiftry was still legal i would say that parallel city would be the best card in a heartbeat. BUT without an effective strategy that relies on your opponent having few to no pokemon in play, i think skyfield is just more universally better as so many pokemon have effects when played or on the bench.

I don't think so because shiftry works well with a turn one donk if you play parallel city you can't play forest of giant plants only one staidum per turn.
 
To be honest parallel city is just as splashable as sky field with the ability to hinder toads queens flareons etc... As well as keeping the opponent from playing techs and backups it's a giant troll stadium that I'll be using for almost every deck
 
I say Parallel City is the better stadium. Because It's more than just a disruptive stadium. (or an anti M-Rayquaza/Raichu stadium.) You can use it to get rid of your own pokemon. For example Hoopa and Shaymin EX, they are useless when already placed on the bench. They only get in your way if your opponent plays Lysandre. You can limit your own bank and get them into your discard pile. You can also get rid of pokemon with low HP that would be knocked out otherwise. This is price denial. And I guess there are many more uses for Parallel City yet to be seen.
 
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I say Parallel City is the better stadium. Because It's more than just a disruptive stadium. (or an anti M-Rayquaza/Raichu stadium.) You can use it to get rid of your own pokemon. For example Hoopa and Shaymin EX, they are useless when already placed on the bench. They only get in your way if your opponent plays Lysandre. You can limit your own bank and get them into your discard pile. You can also get rid of pokemon with low HP that would be knocked out otherwise. This is price denial. And I guess there are many more uses for Parallel City yet to be seen.
Mr. Steven,I agree to that. In speaking of Hoopa and Shaymin,these and other non-attacking EXes are featured on my next thread.

It's my side now. I like the Parallel City now so it is my best card, not I say that I don't like Sky Field because I use it on my TCG ONE battles using M-Rayquaza,Florges,and Raichu related decks. Parallel City will probably the best weapon against Raichu (XY),and if you're using a non-Grass,Fire,and Water decks like M-Tyranitar, you'll be not be affected on the other effect of this card. So for those using Raichu decks,this will be your pain! Hahaha!
So,that's all.
 
So first time I kept it short and sweet. Time to go into some detail looking at some of the points others have brought up.

I say Parallel City is the better stadium. Because It's more than just a disruptive stadium. (or an anti M-Rayquaza/Raichu stadium.) You can use it to get rid of your own pokemon. For example Hoopa and Shaymin EX, they are useless when already placed on the bench. They only get in your way if your opponent plays Lysandre. You can limit your own bank and get them into your discard pile. You can also get rid of pokemon with low HP that would be knocked out otherwise. This is price denial. And I guess there are many more uses for Parallel City yet to be seen.
It's my side now. I like the Parallel City now so it is my best card, not I say that I don't like Sky Field because I use it on my TCG ONE battles using M-Rayquaza,Florges,and Raichu related decks. Parallel City will probably the best weapon against Raichu (XY),and if you're using a non-Grass,Fire,and Water decks like M-Tyranitar, you'll be not be affected on the other effect of this card. So for those using Raichu decks,this will be your pain! Hahaha!
So,that's all.

Whatever term you wish to use to distinguish them, it is important to note the difference between major versus minor benefits of a card, primary versus secondary (or even tertiary) uses. I'm probably misreading things, but the way the thread wraps up it almost acts like this trick is the super-special-awesome reason for running Parallel City, but it ignores other aspects of game play. So let us really work through it.

So yes, you can use it to discard some of your own Benched Pokémon and sometimes that will be a nice trick. Shaymin-EX (ROS) and Hoopa-EX mean a lot of decks will have one or two targets they either want gone or can afford to discard. Something injured but on the Bench can provide another target you wish to discard. It is important to remember that this is going to apply more to some decks than to others (not a problem as generic Stadiums that work for everything tend to be weaker). Some decks will not want to discard Shaymin-EX but rather keep it in play because they'll bounce it with another card to use it over and over again, or they have a strategy that will on occasion want to attack with it. Much less deck specific though is that few decks want a three Pokémon Bench. Even when I wish I could get rid of a Shaymin-EX on my Bench, if is often because I wish to Bench something else instead. I am not sure which is more likely.

If this is your main reason for running Parallel City, you still have the option of playing it facing the other direction for when you really need your opponent's Bench to shrink instead of your own, though if your deck uses Fire-, Grass- or Water-Type attackers you'll blunt your damage a little. I am more concerned that I am not gaining any of the many potent benefits available from other Stadium cards. No damage bonus from Fighting Stadium. No extra damage counters from Virbank City Gym or Faded Town. No blocking Abilities on Basic Pokémon through Silent Lab. Etc. In business, there are things called "Opportunity Costs". They are useful elsewhere; life is full of choices that are "either/or" and not "and/also" and with 60 card deck sizes every card you choose to run is in place of something else. Parallel City isn't just competing against other Stadiums but anything else your deck could benefit from in its "slot".

None of this invalidates using Parallel City to discard your vulnerable Benched Pokémon to act as Prize denial, but it does help put it into perspective. I have found discarding potentially easy Prizes from Pokémon I could afford to discard to be quite useful already... because Sky Field allows it going the opposite way. Instead of playing a Stadium to reduce myself to three Benched Pokémon, with Sky Field you often have an opponent that will happily discard it for you, usually after you have in some way benefited. If not, you may be able to do it yourself with your own secondary Stadium, Paint Roller or Lugia-EX (AOR). Again we are talking about tertiary/minor benefits: this should not be the main reason to run Sky Field (or those other cards) either, but it is usually the drawback I encounter when discarding an opponent's Sky Field. Both Parallel City and Sky Field need another reason to be in your deck.

Raichu (XY) almost always needs Sky Field, unless it is exploiting Weakness. Maybe I'm just ignorant that this is not the case. There is also the problem that while you can indeed use this against Raichu, if they have sufficient Pokémon in reserve (or can recycle and reclaim the discarded Pokémon) then the Raichu player will just try to put another Sky Field down. That is still better for the person trying to counter Raichu than having played no alternate Stadium at all and it disrupts the Raichu (or Colorless M Rayquaza-EX or whatever is counting on Sky Field) player more than just getting rid of Sky Field alone would have done.

So in the end, if I have to choose one or the other, Sky Field still wins. Few decks cannot benefit from an enlarged Bench but many decks can make do with one of reduced size or overcome a -20 to damage done. If your own deck only needs to stick it to the decks that are seriously impaired by one effect or the other of Parallel City (and are unaffected or can deal with the effect it will have on your own side of the field) then it might be the better fit, but in general I am seeing more use for Sky Field and when we do get down to the specifics, I am seeing more decks that are made by Sky Field than by Parallel City.
 
Sky Field has *huge* combinatory potential, and is being used to great effect (Rayquaza EX, Raichu XY variants, Shiftry FFI), but I really don't see where in the metagame Parallel City can fit. It's a solution looking for a problem.
 
Edit: Misread the comment that @The Poke Tactics quoted, leading to me misunderstanding what was being said. Leaving the post up for reference but yeah, I realized my mistake that Shiftry (FLF) was brought up in reference to Pokémon that benefit from Sky Field.

ahem! Is it the Shiftry with Leaf Draw ability?


Shiftry (XY: Flashfire 7/106) has an attack based on how many Pokémon are on the Bench... both players' benches. So Parallel City gives a Shiftry player the choice between lowering its damage done with "Deranged Dance" by shrinking your own Bench or by shrinking your opponent's Bench by upwards of the same amount while also tacking on that -20 from the other side of the effect.

If you meant as a counter to it, that Shiftry hasn't proven all that strong so far (unless I missed a recent development), then you have a similar situation as versus Raichu (XY 43/146): anything that knocks its Stadium out of play (in this case either Forest of Giant Plants or Sky Field) will be a huge improvement... so while Parallel City would be even more devastating, you may as well use whatever the deck actually calls for to be slightly less devastating but boost your own strategy.
 
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I meant Sky Field was *useful* with the Shiftry. I'm struggling to find a use for Parallel City.

I misread @The Poke Tactics comment (and quoted text). I did not see Shiftry in the list or perhaps had a brain fart and instead of realizing you meant the XY: Flashfire version, assumed there was a different one in XY: Furious Fists. As such I thought he was advocating using Parallel City with Shiftry. My bad!
 
To be honest parallel city is just as splashable as sky field with the ability to hinder toads queens flareons etc... As well as keeping the opponent from playing techs and backups it's a giant troll stadium that I'll be using for almost every deck

Hahaha, hinder, more like you powerup vespiquen/flareon, I'd discard a stage 1 and a shaymin so it count's as 10 dmg over, play down a stadium from my hand and thank you for 3 pokemon in my discard for game.


Truth be told parallel city doesn't seem like it'll see play above 1 in most decks, And decks that lose dmg output against the card play a minimum of 3-4 stadiums of 1 stadium in their deck because it's incredibly good, rough sea's, broken vine space, and scorched earth, which is what this should be versus, not mega ray which will just put 2-3 eggs and a sacred ash, please play the stadium I don't mind playing a much more ridiculous version of mega ray just to ohko whatever you have on the bench or active next turn.

Though the actual reason as to why this stadium is so insainly bad as opposed to powering up flareon, making mega ray more competitive and countering decks with awesome stadiums is it now let's your opponent put shaymins in the discard. So please, never play this card, just play a max potion or a super potion, no wait play eviolite.... nobody plays that card, my point exactly.
 
Edit: Misread the comment that @The Poke Tactics quoted, leading to me misunderstanding what was being said. Leaving the post up for reference but yeah, I realized my mistake that Shiftry (FLF) was brought up in reference to Pokémon that benefit from Sky Field.




Shiftry (XY: Flashfire 7/106) has an attack based on how many Pokémon are on the Bench... both players' benches. So Parallel City gives a Shiftry player the choice between lowering its damage done with "Deranged Dance" by shrinking your own Bench or by shrinking your opponent's Bench by upwards of the same amount while also tacking on that -20 from the other side of the effect.

If you meant as a counter to it, that Shiftry hasn't proven all that strong so far (unless I missed a recent development), then you have a similar situation as versus Raichu (XY 43/146): anything that knocks its Stadium out of play (in this case either Forest of Giant Plants or Sky Field) will be a huge improvement... so while Parallel City would be even more devastating, you may as well use whatever the deck actually calls for to be slightly less devastating but boost your own strategy.
Thanks,sir. I'm just clarify. @RunningWithScizors put Shiftry FFI instead of FLF.
 
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