Cheap Fighting Deck
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RE: Cheap, Effective Deck?
I don't think so. Any fighting deck other than donphan is based off of more expensive EX cards, like Landorus-EX and Lucario-EX.
rauber said:
I don't think so. Any fighting deck other than donphan is based off of more expensive EX cards, like Landorus-EX and Lucario-EX.
As One Approved stated, Landorus-EX and Lucario-EX are the go-to attackers for Fighting decks (sans Donphan), and both of them are on the expensive end of the spectrum. Hawlucha FFI is a powerful card that's not too expensive, but because it can only hit Pokemon-EX and is fragile at 70HP isn't reliable as the only attacker in a deck. Lucario PLS is an interesting card, but I feel like its energy cost is hefty for a stage 1, and it's very easy to knock out. Domphan is a really solid deck choice though, and as you've said, is not expensive. While it might seem overwhelming to a new player at first glance, it's actually a pretty simple deck to understand once you're used to it.
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A lot of people tend to ignore Lucario from Legendary Treasures. While it isn't great, it's pretty decent with Machamp. With a Strong Energy, 2 Machamp in play, and a Muscle Band, Aura Sphere does 130 to the Active and 20 to the Bench, and you deal an extra 20 with the Ability, maybe 40 damage total if you last more than 1 hit. It isn't great though, defenitely not enough to run a deck. If you want to try it, I recommend a 2-2 line at most, and only use it when you know you can last more than 1 hit.
One Fighting Type that hasn't seen much use whatsoever is Gliscor (Phantom Forces). While not strong, it can shut down entire decks for a turn or two, and gets damage boosts from Machamp, Strong Energy, Fighting Stadium, and Muscle Band.
Speaking of which, if you can't afford Donphan, use Gliscor (Boundaries Crossed) instead. It isn't as good as the Elephant, though.
Things that make Donphan better:
-More HP.
-Less Energy needed to attack.
-Has Wreck, which will OHKO pretty much anything with damage boosters.
Things that make Gliscor better:
-Lower retreat. This is especially nice since Beartic will need a Muscle Band to OHKO any of your Gliscors.
-Less expensive. While Donphan is usually $6 each, Gliscor can be found for a measly $1.50 on average.
-It's a Holo!
-Poison Ring can be used in unison with Lysandre to stall out a Pokemon for a turn or two if your opponent doesn't have Energy or things like Escape Rope, Switch, or Keldeo-EX.
-By using Gligar from Phantom Forces, you might be able to trick some players into thinking that you're using the Gliscor from Phantom Forces, not the one from Boundaries Crossed.
One Fighting Type that hasn't seen much use whatsoever is Gliscor (Phantom Forces). While not strong, it can shut down entire decks for a turn or two, and gets damage boosts from Machamp, Strong Energy, Fighting Stadium, and Muscle Band.
Speaking of which, if you can't afford Donphan, use Gliscor (Boundaries Crossed) instead. It isn't as good as the Elephant, though.
Things that make Donphan better:
-More HP.
-Less Energy needed to attack.
-Has Wreck, which will OHKO pretty much anything with damage boosters.
Things that make Gliscor better:
-Lower retreat. This is especially nice since Beartic will need a Muscle Band to OHKO any of your Gliscors.
-Less expensive. While Donphan is usually $6 each, Gliscor can be found for a measly $1.50 on average.
-It's a Holo!
-Poison Ring can be used in unison with Lysandre to stall out a Pokemon for a turn or two if your opponent doesn't have Energy or things like Escape Rope, Switch, or Keldeo-EX.
-By using Gligar from Phantom Forces, you might be able to trick some players into thinking that you're using the Gliscor from Phantom Forces, not the one from Boundaries Crossed.
I've been using a Tyrantrum deck and having a reasonable amount of success with it. I use Reshiram, Zekrom and Landorus FFI to wall while I get my Tyrantrum set up. I can usually get them ready by the 2nd or 3rd turn with Jirachi-EX and 4 Fossil Researcher and once they're rolling they're doing 150-210 damage every turn which is enough to overrun a lot of decks. Even if my opponent avoids playing any special energy I can still hit for 120 with strong energy, muscle band and fighting stadium or hit use Giga Impact for the big damage if I have something that will allow me to get tyrantrum to the bench next turn and negate the drawback (like switch and Hawlucha). Tyrantrum is weak to grass so Reshiram helps to deal with popular grass decks and Zekrom deals with Yveltal-EX which, while still beatable, can slow down Tyrantrum with it's resistance. I also run Mewtwo-EX since Tyrantrum can sometimes fall slightly short of taking all 6 prizes on his own and Mewtwo is good for cleaning up after him.
In real life, as opposed to PTCGO, I use Raichu instead of Zekrom because I don't have one which isn't quite as good but still works and the deck was really pretty cheap or I'd have never built it in the first place. The most expensive cards in there are Computer Search and Jirachi-EX. You could probably get by without Computer Search but I think Jirachi-EX is essential due to how important that turn 1 Fossil Researcher is.
In real life, as opposed to PTCGO, I use Raichu instead of Zekrom because I don't have one which isn't quite as good but still works and the deck was really pretty cheap or I'd have never built it in the first place. The most expensive cards in there are Computer Search and Jirachi-EX. You could probably get by without Computer Search but I think Jirachi-EX is essential due to how important that turn 1 Fossil Researcher is.
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Pokemon (13)
3x Tyrunt FFI
3x Tyrantrum FFI
2x Hawlucha FFI
1x Landorus FFI
1x Reshiram LTR
1x Zekrom LTR
1x Mewtwo-EX LTR
1x Jirachi-EX PLB
Trainers (34)
4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
4x Fossil Researcher
1x Lysandre
1x Pokemon Centre Lady
3x Bicycle
1x Evosoda
1x Sacred Ash
3x Switch
4x Ultra ball
2x VS Seeker
3x Muscle Band
2x Fighting Stadium
1x Computer Search
Energy (13)
4x Strong Energy
4x DCE
5x Fighting
Pokemon (13)
3x Tyrunt FFI
3x Tyrantrum FFI
2x Hawlucha FFI
1x Landorus FFI
1x Reshiram LTR
1x Zekrom LTR
1x Mewtwo-EX LTR
1x Jirachi-EX PLB
Trainers (34)
4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
4x Fossil Researcher
1x Lysandre
1x Pokemon Centre Lady
3x Bicycle
1x Evosoda
1x Sacred Ash
3x Switch
4x Ultra ball
2x VS Seeker
3x Muscle Band
2x Fighting Stadium
1x Computer Search
Energy (13)
4x Strong Energy
4x DCE
5x Fighting
Fossil Researcher is there instead of the Jaw Fossil. Fossil Researcher lets you search for 2 Tyrunt or Amaura and put them directly onto your bench. It uses your supporter for the turn but it's much more reliable than using Jaw fossil and just hoping there's a Tyrunt in the bottom 7 cards of your deck.
You could certainly try adding those cards. I think you'd be hard pressed to fit Machamp since it's a stage 2 and would need all it's pre-evolutions and ideally rare candy. You could maybe squeeze in a 2-1-2 line with a couple of rare candies in if you took out the tech Pokemon like Reshiram, Zekrom, and Mewtwo and a few of the less critical trainer cards like Evosoda, Sacred Ash and Pokemon Centre Lady. Tyrantrum can be slow to set up as it is if you don't find the turn 1 Fossil Researcher without trying to get a stage 2 in play as well.
Lucario-EX would be easier to add since it's a basic attacker that uses fighting energy. You could try replacing any of the extra attackers with him. The only Pokemon that I think are absolutely essential to this deck are the Tyrantrum line, Jirachi-EX and Hawlucha (because he's good with a switching card to reset Giga Impact). The rest could be swapped out based on what cards you have or what's in your local metagame.
You could certainly try adding those cards. I think you'd be hard pressed to fit Machamp since it's a stage 2 and would need all it's pre-evolutions and ideally rare candy. You could maybe squeeze in a 2-1-2 line with a couple of rare candies in if you took out the tech Pokemon like Reshiram, Zekrom, and Mewtwo and a few of the less critical trainer cards like Evosoda, Sacred Ash and Pokemon Centre Lady. Tyrantrum can be slow to set up as it is if you don't find the turn 1 Fossil Researcher without trying to get a stage 2 in play as well.
Lucario-EX would be easier to add since it's a basic attacker that uses fighting energy. You could try replacing any of the extra attackers with him. The only Pokemon that I think are absolutely essential to this deck are the Tyrantrum line, Jirachi-EX and Hawlucha (because he's good with a switching card to reset Giga Impact). The rest could be swapped out based on what cards you have or what's in your local metagame.