Cinccino and jumpluff (masters and seniors)

[Itzkookiemonsta]

This deck seems very good, but I cant ever seem to set up until the fourth or fifth turn. Any advice on how to make this deck faster would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Pokemon:
3-3 Cinccino
1 Zekrom
1 Reshiram
3 Stantler UD
1 Ditto TM
1 Solrock TM
1 Lunatone TM
1 Unown dark
2-2 Zoroark
1-1 Umbreon UD, non prime

Trainer/Supporter:
1 Pokemon collector
1 judge
1 twins
1 professor juniper
1 energy search
1 interviewer's questions
2 professor oak's new theory
2 seeker
2 energy exchanger
4 pokemon communication
3 switch
1 dual ball
2 lost remover
4 plus power

Energy:
2 rescue
3 dark
4 special dark
4 double colorless

 

[xDMVx]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

-1 zekrom (not really needed and just adds to your fighting weakness.)
-1 reshiram (slows down the deck imo)
-3 stantler (pichu is a musch better starter in ciccino/jumpluff decks)
-1 ditto (dont really see the point of this.)
-1 solrock (healing wont be a huge issue since youll be hitting for 100/120 a turn un pluspowered)
-1 lunatone(see above^)
-3 dark (you wont need these for zoroark)
-1-1 umbreon (easily countered in donphan decks not a viable counter in HGSS- on)
-2 special dark(with 4 pluspower you wont need 4 as Zoroark only needs a dark or a plus pwer for OHKO.)
-1 energy search (energy searches are bad)
-1 dual ball (collector is better)
-1 judge
-1 juniper (you wont have many spare cards to discard.)
-2 seeker (youll want yours and your opponents bench full)
-2 lost remover
-1 switch (2 is plenty)
-1 pokemon communication (3 is plenty )
Total 25

+3 pichus HGSS (allows you and your opponent to fill bench faster for more damage.)
+1-1 ciccino( main attacker should be maxed)
+2-1-2 jumpluff HGSS (can do 120 max and has a fighting resistance and pairs nicely with ciccino)
+1 collector (to add bench faster)
+1 Interviewers questions (to get your special energies out)
+1 twins (ciccino has low hp so youll get kod often this will help you stay in it)
+1-1 ninetales CoL (this deck being mostly colorless can use fire energy for roast reveals or can trade the fire via energy exchanger)
+2 rare candy (for jumpluff if you choose to run him)
+4 fire energy (to be exchanged or roast revieled away)
+2 rainbow (for jumpluff)
Total 25

This will help make the deck faster and more consistant. I know its a lot of changes so take them all with a grain of salt and just do the ones you like the most. :]

 

[Vortex]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

You truly need at least 3 Collectors - every Cinccino player should know that. If you use 4 Collectors, you don't need to waste slots on the weak and slow to set up Stantlers. I can probably say more later.
Oh, and I run a 1-1-1 Exploud SV to sort out weakness.

 

[catutie]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

ive tested this deck alot and i can get it to do 100 at least T2 EVERY time.

if you want my exact list i can PM it to you but this should be your poke list (well at least this is mine)

4-4 Cinccino
4-4-4 Jumpluff
2-2 Sunflora
4 Minun UL

that makes it REALLY consistant

 

[xDMVx]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

ive tested this deck alot and i can get it to do 100 at least T2 EVERY time.

if you want my exact list i can PM it to you but this should be your poke list (well at least this is mine)

4-4 Cinccino
4-4-4 Jumpluff
2-2 Sunflora
4 Minun UL

that makes it REALLY consistant

This also works extremely well. I actually prefer something like this but wasnt sure how attached you were to zoroarks and didnt want to completely chop your deck apart. Although I still prefer Pichu to both minun and stantler.

 

[Vortex]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

ive tested this deck alot and i can get it to do 100 at least T2 EVERY time.

if you want my exact list i can PM it to you but this should be your poke list (well at least this is mine)

4-4 Cinccino
4-4-4 Jumpluff
2-2 Sunflora
4 Minun UL

that makes it REALLY consistant

Can you PM it to me, please? I am planning on adding Jumpluff to mine, but I don't have any at the moment. I need it more consistent, so any help would be appreciated.

 

[Itzkookiemonsta]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

Thanks for all the help guys. I hope you don't think I am an awful player, i just couldn't figure out what to use with cinccino. I think ill try to pair it with pichu and jumpluff. BTW, what does minun do?

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ive tested this deck alot and i can get it to do 100 at least T2 EVERY time.

if you want my exact list i can PM it to you but this should be your poke list (well at least this is mine)

4-4 Cinccino
4-4-4 Jumpluff
2-2 Sunflora
4 Minun UL

that makes it REALLY consistant

Could you PM me the list too please?

 

[The Yoshi]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

^Minun does the same thing as Stantler(find two Basics), but use Pichu. It's the best because it speeds you up and/or slows your opponent down.

If I was playing Cincinno, I would play it like this:

3-3 Cincinnno BW
3-3-3 Jumpluff HGSS
2-2 Sunflora HGSS
4 Pichu HGSS
1/2 Bouffalant BW

Run max Collector, some Pluspower, max Communication, 2/3 Rare Candy, 4 DCE, 5/6 Grass, and you're all set besides staples.

 

[Itzkookiemonsta]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

Thanks. I got some jumpluffs today, but I don't understand how pichu would slow down the opponent. If anything it helps them. Please explain.

 

[catutie]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

pichu helps your opponent to much

keep with minun or stantler

 

[xDMVx]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

Because Pichu with jumpluff makes it so your opponent either adds to his bench (adding to your damage) or they dont to save the damage and have less bench. And if you run Sunflower with jumpluff/ciccino you should have little problem setting up Jumpluff before they can set up everything.

 

[catutie]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

^eh ive been able to put out 100+ every turn. if your opponents bench is bare send out cinccino, if they have 3+ send in jumpluff. it just depends on the situation

 

[Vortex]

RE: Do the wave (need help)

Yeah, I prefer Minun to Pichu because he's solely helping you. I'd go with him.

 

[The Yoshi]

RE: Do the wave (need help) (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

Why use Minun when Stantler does the same thing and has +10 HP. It can also abuse Mystifying Horns.

Pichu also has free retreat, and has a really nice Pokebody. That's exactly why they work well together, because if they load their bench with 3+, you send in Pluff. If they have 2 or less Bench, you send in Cincinno. Pichu gives you less stress on your next move.

 

[catutie]

RE: Do the wave (need help) (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

^you cant retreat when he is asleep though. so if he stays asleepf or a while...you are hindered for set up and your opponent has 3 fully loaded reshirams...congrats you just lost. and really how many basics did you get on the first turn? i can fill my bench without even thinking T1. minun/stantler (IT DOESNT MATTER PEOPLE ITS T1 NO ONE IS DOING 120 DAMAGE THAT FAST) you put any energy on then next turn retreat for 1 to a cinccino with DCE energy and by T4 your opponent usually scoops

 

[The Yoshi]

RE: Do the wave (need help) (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

^Okay. Then use Stantler or the new Elygem from BW, which is better than Stantler and Minun. Or you could just use Pokemon Collector....>.> He plays SSU too...

Minun is too frail. I suppose Pichu is too, with the sudden uprise of Tyrogue to counter Cleffa, but even Stantler is better because he has Mystifying Horns, where Minun's only purpose is to load your Bench with Basics.

 

[catutie]

RE: Do the wave (need help) (Needs main Pokemon and division in thread title)

where Minun's only purpose is to load your Bench with Basics.

....-_- isnt that the whole point?

edit: and now that i think about it. why would i waist energy in a low energy deck to do 30...when i have a cinccino on the bench that can do 100 for a DCE OR HECK a jumpluff that can do 120 for one energy....

 

[The Yoshi]

^If your opponent has an active Smeargle, they can't Portrait. That's the point of Mystifying Horns IMO.

Don't get me wrong-I know where you are getting at. But if you say you want to fill the Bench T1, then why not use Pichu to ensure it? It's completely up to the person who's using the deck. If you've playtested and Minun works, then use Minun. I don't think it's the best, though.