Darkrai/Hydreigon

[Luckygirl0616]

I have already asked for some help with my Darkrai build for Cities and I got good feedback that really helped me with my build but I want to know if it will be good for the upcoming Regional in Salem Oregon. If you have any feedback I would be happy to hear it. I have been frequently been losing on average one match every Cities which isn't that bad but I'm afraid the competition in Oregon will be much more difficult to beat.

3 Deino (Dragon Deep Growl)
1 Zweilous (Dragon Draw-in)
3 Hydreigon (Dragon Dark Trance)
2 Sableye
1 Sigilyph (EX ability)
1 Cresselia EX
3 Darkrai EX
1 Shaymin EX

3 Dark Patch
4 Professor Juniper
3 Bianca
4 N
3 Skyla
4 Pokemon Catcher
3 Rare Candy
4 Max Potion
4 Ultra Ball
1 Computer Search

8 Darkness Energy
4 Blend Energy GRPD

Thank you for taking a look at my build and if you have any feedback I would be happy to hear it.

 

[Soul]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

Try Mewtwo EX over Cresselia EX, it's much better.

 

[Mora]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

Cresselia wins when it's Cresselia versus Mewtwo, but other than that, Mewtwo can easily take the last two prizes by Dark Trancing all of the energies to it. It depends.

I might like to see another Sableye, but hey, if you're only losing one match per Cities, you must be doing something right. How did you place?

 

[Luckygirl0616]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

Well, Competition up where I am is pretty tough and we only have top 2 because we fall short of the 16 need for it so I get 3rd every now and then, I've gotten a 4th, and then I usually bubble the prizes and get 5th because of my resistance but I bubble with a record or 3-1 or 4-1

 

[Mora]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

:O I just realized no Eviolite!

Also, good job, by the way ^^ I might take out a Catcher and a tech of your choice (I'm thinking Sigilyph, but you decide.) for two Eviolite. Just so Terrakion doesn't Crush you (pun intended )

 

[TeGeTeGe]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

i don't like Shaymin EX, in my list I have mewtwo and cresselia if the opponent use a mewtwo to knock out your mewtwo, you have cresselia

 

[TuxedoBlack]

RE: Darkrai/Hydreigon Decklist

Props to you on your City accomplishments! A good friend of mine from my area played at the Oregon state tournament last year and had a blast. So, I look forward to playing in the Oregon area later this year.

Some thoughts/comments:

-1 Cresselia EX,
+1 Mewtwo EX. This Poké is far more versatile. I'd suggest you even drop the Sigilyph for a 2nd Mewtwo EX.

-1 N,
+1 Bianca. Since you'll deplete your hand between Ultra Balls and Computer Search, Biancas help replenish them more effectively vs. Ns.

-1 Skyla,
-1 Max Potion, Sableye can Junk Hunt these back into your hand.
+1/2 Sableye. This is your "ideal" starter; so, I'd suggest adding more. By the way in my deck, I run 2 Virizion (NV) along with 3 Sableye. The Virizions are great starters too and effective counters against Terrakion, Keldeo EX, and Blastoise. I suspect you will also encounter Terrakion-Landorus EX and/or Tornadus EX based decks at the upcoming Regionals. So, "big HP basics" like Virizion can be quite helpful as a starter.

Hope these comments help.

 

[Diet]

Some thoughts.
-1 Skyla, +1 Deino Deep Growl. You want as many Deinos out T1 as possible because there is a big possibility your opponent will attempt to knock some out. Skyla I found myself using only early game, such as Rare Candy, instance where I need Comp Search, or the rare instance where I desperately need a trainer. All three have never happened for me before, so I found myself using 1-2 a game.
-1 Cresselia EX, +1 Mewtwo EX. Cresselia EX is really only good vs. Mewtwo EX; otherwise, Mewtwo EX can have the energies Dark Tranced onto it for knocking out anything and overall being just a great card.
Depending on your area, I would try running Giratina EX. From personal testing, Giratina EX has helped me a bunch. RayEels can be very troublesome, as they can OHKO your attackers, but Giratina EX can OHKO it back. Plus, it 2HKO's most EX's and its name isn't Darkrai. Also, its second attack allows it to OHKO Terrakion, Outrage Dragons, etc. You can also OHKO Sigilyph without Hydreigon. (Doing so will leave Hydreigon open and vulnerable).
-1 Max Potion, +1 Dark Patch. Dark Patch is a key factor for Darkrai to work; otherwise Darkrai wouldn't be as good. Energy acceleration allows Darkrai to work amazing and you would want to have as much of it as possible. (Personal opinions, others can disagree, but Dark Patch got me T1/T2 Darkrais before.)
Hope some of this helped, and good luck at your regionals.

 

[Luckygirl0616]

Thank you all for your suggestions. I had Mewtwo in my build at one point than I changed to Cresselia because you can one hit a Mewtwo for KO and then if they try to revenge kill you, you don't have weakness so it would be harder to KO. Also if Cresselia is hit you can use Sparkling Particals: Why would Mewtwo be better any better than Cresselia then? I'm just curious.

 

[Violetwisp]

Thank you all for your suggestions. I had Mewtwo in my build at one point than I changed to Cresselia because you can one hit a Mewtwo for KO and then if they try to revenge kill you, you don't have weakness so it would be harder to KO. Also if Cresselia is hit you can use Sparkling Particals: Why would Mewtwo be better any better than Cresselia then? I'm just curious.

Mewtwo is better then Cresselia in every matchup except against other Mewtwos or Cresselias. Cress essentially acts as a hard counter to mewtwo, which sigilyph kind of does already. I'd say drop either Sigilyph or cress for a mewtwo.
Other then that, there are personal changes I'd make, but this one probably fits your playstyle better and seems very solid. Maybe try to fit a few eviolites in and one more sableye, but those aren't really needed.

 

[Luckygirl0616]

Thank you all for your suggestions and here are my thoughts on what you guys thought:

-1 Max Potion, +1 Dark Patch. Dark Patch is a key factor for Darkrai to work; otherwise Darkrai wouldn't be as good. Energy acceleration allows Darkrai to work amazing and you would want to have as much of it as possible. (Personal opinions, others can disagree, but Dark Patch got me T1/T2 Darkrais before.)
Hope some of this helped, and good luck at your regionals.

I agree, Dark Patch is an extremely key card in Darkrai and I will try and test with this idea for the week and see if it could improve my deck for Regionals. Thank you

-1 N,
+1 Bianca. Since you'll deplete your hand between Ultra Balls and Computer Search, Biancas help replenish them more effectively vs. Ns.

I had never thought of going down in N's to bump up my Bianca's because with Ultra Balling and Computer Searching I do end up having less cards in my hand. I will also try and test with this change through the week and if it does help I will use it for Regionals. Thank you

:O I just realized no Eviolite!

Also, good job, by the way ^^ I might take out a Catcher and a tech of your choice (I'm thinking Sigilyph, but you decide.) for two Eviolite. Just so Terrakion doesn't Crush you (pun intended )

In my own personal opinion I don't like Evolite in Darkrai. I belive if you CAN find room for a tool in Darkrai it would be Dark Claw but, one, I don't have the room, and two I don't personally like running tools because they could be other useful cards in Darkai such as Dark Patch or energy or what ever else you might need. Thank you fro your feedback though

Thank you all for your suggestions. I had Mewtwo in my build at one point than I changed to Cresselia because you can one hit a Mewtwo for KO and then if they try to revenge kill you, you don't have weakness so it would be harder to KO. Also if Cresselia is hit you can use Sparkling Particals: Why would Mewtwo be better any better than Cresselia then? I'm just curious.

Mewtwo is better then Cresselia in every matchup except against other Mewtwos or Cresselias. Cress essentially acts as a hard counter to mewtwo, which sigilyph kind of does already. I'd say drop either Sigilyph or cress for a mewtwo.
Other then that, there are personal changes I'd make, but this one probably fits your playstyle better and seems very solid. Maybe try to fit a few eviolites in and one more sableye, but those aren't really needed.

I see what you mean by Mewtwo is better in other match up except for other Mewtwos or Cresselias, but Cresselia and Sigilyph aren't just in there as a Mewtwo counter. Sigilyph is also there to stall out my opponent against their EX's so they can't attack. Cresselia is in there for Sparkling Particals as well as for a Mewtwo/Cresselia counter so if I need to take a small amount of damage Cresselia can just slowly take it off.

 

[Mora]

And normally, I would have to agree with you. I'd much rather have something that my opponent can't just get rid of with one card, but you have to worry about Terrakion. They OHKO Darkrai, and they can sometimes come out of nowhere, so every turn you knock something out with Darkrai (against certain decks, of course), you face the possibility of losing a Darkrai. Eviolite just makes it harder to get the the OHKO against Darkrai; take it from a player whose only chance to win against Darkrai once their Hydreigon is out is to OHKO Darkrais, since otherwise, they very easily Max Potion all of the damage off.

On another note, keep four N. Cutting your opponent's hand down to one or two is too good to not run four off. It's the ultimate 'makin a comeback' card. Plus, before you take your first prize, It's actually slightly better than Bianca (unless you were able to burn your entire hand. In that case, good for you! ) because with N, you can shuffle those cards that you weren't able to burn and probably don't need presently, and draw even more cards. If you want more Supporters, I'd suggest finding something else to cut.