Ruling Discard 3 Energy/Energy Cards

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Ok, some cards say "Discard 3 Energy Cards" while some say "Discard 3 Energy"
http://pokebeach.com/scans/great-encounters/23-latios.jpg
The Latios says to discard 3 Energies. Does this mean (if Scramble worked on basics) that I could discard 1 Scramble (or 1 DRE and a basic). If it says Energy Cards, could I discard 2 Scramble and 1 DRE and have the 2+1=3?

EDIT: Unown G on the GE set list doesn't/isn't working.
 
3 energy is just the three energy symbols like usinr 2 regular and a DRE, or a Boost, etc. 3 energy cards is that it has to have three cards attached to it providing energies.
 
TCC Co-Founder said:
Ok, some cards say "Discard 3 Energy Cards" while some say "Discard 3 Energy"
http://pokebeach.com/scans/great-encounters/23-latios.jpg
The Latios says to discard 3 Energies. Does this mean (if Scramble worked on basics) that I could discard 1 Scramble (or 1 DRE and a basic). If it says Energy Cards, could I discard 2 Scramble and 1 DRE and have the 2+1=3?

Yes. "Energy" would take into account how many Energy each card is providing (Scramble, DRE, Powers like Sceptile GE, etc.). "Energy cards" means exactly what it says.
 
^You mean eggs MD. That and tangrowth has been given and errata to say energies provided by basic energy cards instead of energy cards. Look that up in the compendium. Sceptile does double your energies but only for your basic grass. Not for boost energy with chlorophyll.

I heard that leafeon lv.x was given the same errata but I couldn't find it at the compendium. True?
 
Energy "cards" refers to individual cards that provide energy

"energies" refers to energy that is provided to the pokemon the attack refers to.
 
Thou Shall Sleep said:
I heard that leafeon lv.x was given the same errata but I couldn't find it at the compendium. True?

No. A card has to actually be released before it can get an errata.
 
Leafeon X works with Sceptile, as it says "does an additional 10 damage for each energy attached to all of your pokemon"
 
Chairman Kaga said:
No. A card has to actually be released before it can get an errata.

I'm not so sure. Pokémon Organised Play are dedicated to ensuring play is fair and cards are given accurate errata if necessary. If POP became aware that a card to be released was being played incorrectly at pre-releases, I'm confident they would make it known. Pre-releases are still tournaments and should be played as intended, and players should have the right to accurately prepare for a tournament regardless of whether they will be using their own cards.

As for energy payments, they can actually be paid in different ways. Whenever you are required to discard a set number of energy cards such as 2 or 3, you just move that number of physical cards to the discard pile. Count the physical cards as you pick them up from the pokémon until you have discarded enough. Then stop! you can't discard any more.

If it just mentions "energy", the process is very different. You can actually discard more energies than is needed if you choose the cards in the right order. For each card you discard, count the number of energies it was providing. That's one for basics, three for an activated scramble energy etc. When you get up to the number it's asking for, stop! you can't discard any more.

For your Latios, suppose you had three basic energy cards attached and a holon's castform. You could discard the holon's castform and then a basic energy. You would then have to stop, because you reached three. If you discarded two basics first, you could then choose the holon's castform. Even though that goes over the three it's asking for, it's OK because you didn't reach it until then. You could discard just the three basic energy cards, but not all four energy cards.

In your post, your understanding is right. Even though the special energies you mentioned cannot be attached to basic pokémon, can you see from my example that you can still be in a similar position with holon's castform?

Hope that was helpful.
 
Magic Umbreon said:
I'm not so sure. Pokémon Organised Play are dedicated to ensuring play is fair and cards are given accurate errata if necessary. If POP became aware that a card to be released was being played incorrectly at pre-releases, I'm confident they would make it known. Pre-releases are still tournaments and should be played as intended, and players should have the right to accurately prepare for a tournament regardless of whether they will be using their own cards.

They never know if a card is mistranslated until someone outside PUI spots it and then brings it up as an issue. That would require people outside PUI to actually see the card.

Once it does get spotted, it has to run through all the red tape before an errata is issued. So you're not going to see pre-release errata.
 
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