Ruling Double Rainbow Energy

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The Dark Toxicroak

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So once again a question what happens if you attach this to a basic by accident does it a) get discarded b) go back to your hand

A makes sense because well it says cant be attached to a basic and you misplayed your not supposed to be able to redo thigns in tournements

B makes sense because if you discard it you can use it to your advantage (stevens delcatty ex etc)
 
Well since the card states that if this card is attached to a basic pokemon or pokemon-ex.. It gets discarded.. And there is no accident in playing pokemon.. if you attach it it's final so it gets discarded
 
Actually, if you make a rewindable error, it just goes back to your hand, as long as you note it in time. Your opponent will have to notice as well.

Should you have gotten a sizeable advantage due to it, you'll get some sort of penalty and it will be discarded.

Riskbreakers, the discard thing is meant for if I devolve your pokemon. Example, if I use Mew Ex (HP) who can devolve your Pokemon (Example, your DRE carrying Magmortar), then the DRE gets discarded from Magmar.
 
When it says if the card is attached to a Basic Pokemon or Ex Card, discard DRE, then it means if the Pokemon it is attached to evolves/devolves into an Ex/Basic then DRE get's discarded.

If you attach DRE to an Ex or a Basic Pokemon then DRE goes straight back to your hand. You should not get penalized for it either. You cannot legally make the move so therefore if you accidently, or attempt to do it, the DRE goes straight back to your hand. Not discarded. And you should not be penalized.
 
Yes you WILL be penalized if the card stays in play when you don't notice what you've done wrong. Imagine if you put a DRE to an EX pokemon, use it's move and pull a prize card with it. The next turn you go "Oh bummer. I forgot I can't put that on an EX pokemon. I'll just take the card back to my hand." :/ Yeah... Major bummer.

For a major game error like that, you could end up with a game loss in worst case scenario. (Serious unchangeable changes in game state). Most likely you will get at least a prize loss if nothing too serious has happened while the card has been "illegally" in play.

The card will be taken back and the proper penaltys are handed to offenders.
 
Mewstor said:
Yes you WILL be penalized if the card stays in play when you don't notice what you've done wrong. Imagine if you put a DRE to an EX pokemon, use it's move and pull a prize card with it. The next turn you go "Oh bummer. I forgot I can't put that on an EX pokemon. I'll just take the card back to my hand." :/ Yeah... Major bummer.

For a major game error like that, you could end up with a game loss in worst case scenario. (Serious unchangeable changes in game state). Most likely you will get at least a prize loss if nothing too serious has happened while the card has been "illegally" in play.

The card will be taken back and the proper penaltys are handed to offenders.
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Well I left that situation open. Fact is, the other player should be vigilant...

IF, a DRE is attached to an Ex Pokemon or a Basic Pokemon after the turn it was attached, SHOULD, be penalized.
 
The Dark Knight said:
So once again a question what happens if you attach this to a basic by accident does it a) get discarded b) go back to your hand

A makes sense because well it says cant be attached to a basic and you misplayed your not supposed to be able to redo thigns in tournements

B makes sense because if you discard it you can use it to your advantage (stevens delcatty ex etc)
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There is an unwritten rule in Pokemon -- "Can't happen, didn't happen". You can't attach DRE to a Basic, so the action would be rewound, as if it never happened. Assuming the error was caught right after it occured, the judge would have you take the DRE back to your hand. I personally would give a Caution in this case.

Now, if you actually attack using the illegally-attached DRE, things become much more complicated. Warning would be the starting penalty here, and a Prize Card penalty is more likely. If a major game state change resulted from the illegal attack (like a KO), a Game Loss penalty is probably warranted. Assuming the game continues at all, the DRE is definitely going away (either discarded or shuffled back into the deck).
 
But then what happens if i used pow hand extension of TRR to move a DRE from his evolved active back to his benched basic?
 
Krucifier said:
Mewstor said:
Yes you WILL be penalized if the card stays in play when you don't notice what you've done wrong. Imagine if you put a DRE to an EX pokemon, use it's move and pull a prize card with it. The next turn you go "Oh bummer. I forgot I can't put that on an EX pokemon. I'll just take the card back to my hand." :/ Yeah... Major bummer.

For a major game error like that, you could end up with a game loss in worst case scenario. (Serious unchangeable changes in game state). Most likely you will get at least a prize loss if nothing too serious has happened while the card has been "illegally" in play.

The card will be taken back and the proper penaltys are handed to offenders.
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Well I left that situation open. Fact is, the other player should be vigilant...

IF, a DRE is attached to an Ex Pokemon or a Basic Pokemon after the turn it was attached, SHOULD, be penalized.
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Yes. Both players must stay vigilant. Sometimes though the other player probably don't know/don't remember the rule either. I've seen many many cases where two beginning players face off in a tournament match, and I'm literally pulling my hair out watching their game as both make near critical errors through out the whole game. So some times both players even CAN'T be vigilant enough to see a game play error in time.

It's uncommon to give caution to the other player too for not catching a game play error in time. It always depends on the game situation.

Chairman Kaga is correct too. In pokemon TCG everything that can be undone after a game play error, will be taken back as far as possible.


riskbreakers said:
But then what happens if i used pow hand extension of TRR to move a DRE from his evolved active back to his benched basic?
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You can move the energy and it gets immediately discarded.
 
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