Standard Energy Totem (Shining Genesect/Venusaur)

[jessalakasam]

Pokémon: 17
3x Shining Genesect SHL
3x Bulbasaur SHL
2x Ivysaur SHL
3x Venusaur SHL
2x Fomantis SUM
2x Lurantis Promo
2x Tapu Lele GX GRi

Trainers: 32
2x Field Blower
2x Rare Candy
4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
4x Ultra Ball
2x Rare Candy
3x Guzma
3x Choice Band
2x Revitalizer
1x Super Rod
1x Brigette
1x Professor's Letter
3x Max Elixir

Energy: 11
11x Grass

 

[TorchHG]

Would you ever consider putting in Lurantis GX for some energy acceleration, or nax Elixirs? That might really help increase damage significantly and also pay for the attack cost faster than 2 or 3 turns.

Looks like you have a solid base, although you might not need all of your Revitalizers or super rod, or even 1 of the Skyla.

 

[Rooie]

Considering Genesect's ability, I'd definitely add in some Max Elixirs.

 

[AuraJackle]

You forgot briggete also as said b4 lurantis gx and max elixers I think the promo lurantis won't be that usefull though

 

[AFEX]

Pokémon: 17
3x Shining Genesect SHL
3x Bulbasaur SHL
2x Ivysaur SHL
3x Venusaur SHL
2x Fomantis SUM
2x Lurantis Promo
2x Tapu Lele

Trainers: 30
2x Field Blower
2x Rare Candy
4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
4x Ultra Ball
2x Rare Candy
3x Guzma
3x Choice Band
2x Revitalizer
1x Super Rod
2x Skyla
1x Professor's Letter

Energy:
13x Grass

I was just about to post a list like this, I believe Venasaur has a LOT of potiential, sadly, not a lot of people see it.
When you put Tapu Lele on the list, is it the GX one (AKA: The Infamous One) or the one coming in the new pin box eventually?

 

[jessalakasam]

I was just about to post a list like this, I believe Venasaur has a LOT of potiential, sadly, not a lot of people see it.
When you put Tapu Lele on the list, is it the GX one (AKA: The Infamous One) or the one coming in the new pin box eventually?

Yes

 

[CaptZero]

Considering you can only benefit from one venasaur at a time maybe thin the deck out there and add some more supporting Pokemon like Tapu Koko?

 

[CaptZero]

You forgot briggete also as said b4 lurantis gx and max elixers I think the promo lurantis won't be that usefull though

I'm not entirely against 1 promo Lurantis. I'd have to do the math but it should help you out with some numbers. One quick example though, if you have the energy on Genesect,Venusaur live, and a choice band you hit 200 damage. That's 10 short of a knockout on Ninetales.

 

[CrownAxe]

I'm not entirely against 1 promo Lurantis. I'd have to do the math but it should help you out with some numbers. One quick example though, if you have the energy on Genesect,Venusaur live, and a choice band you hit 200 damage. That's 10 short of a knockout on Ninetales.

How are you getting 3 grass energies out on a pokemon with only 130hp and no energy acceleration

 

[CaptZero]

How are you getting 3 grass energies out on a pokemon with only 130hp and no energy acceleration

A) It's a basic Pokemon so Max Elixir accelerates (and because of Genesect's ability it doesn't matter where the energy goes)

B) You could open with Virizion to accelerate

C) Venasuar is basically acceleration

D) Turn 1 attachment + Max Elixir + Turn 2 attachment = 3 Energy

 

[KabuTopgun]

I was just about to post a list like this, I believe Venasaur has a LOT of potiential, sadly, not a lot of people see it.
When you put Tapu Lele on the list, is it the GX one (AKA: The famous One) or the one coming in the new pin box eventually?

Yet several of the most recent decks posted here have been Venusaur/Genesect or some variation of it...
He's probably referring to Tapu Lele GX but the card is just so obnoxiously ubiquitous that he forgot the 'GX'...

A 3-2-3 Line of Venusaur is excessive; 2 on field is redundant and a total of 2 in deck is enough to create consistency.

Also worth considering Wishful Baton; saving 3 energy when you lose a Shining Genesect is essentially retaining 6, which will do more for damage output than a Choice Band.
Speaking of Genesect; with the Venusaur line shaved down a bit you could easily run 4, which I think will be worthwhile...

 

[CrownAxe]

A) It's a basic Pokemon so Max Elixir accelerates (and because of Genesect's ability it doesn't matter where the energy goes)

B) You could open with Virizion to accelerate

C) Venasuar is basically acceleration

D) Turn 1 attachment + Max Elixir + Turn 2 attachment = 3 Energy

A+D) I didn't see the OP had added max elixer it wasn't in the list before

B) OP isn't running Virizion, It'd also be better to run Reyquaza

C) Obviously I'm counting Venasuar, That's why I said you need 3 grass energy instead 6

 

[jessalakasam]

A) It's a basic Pokemon so Max Elixir accelerates (and because of Genesect's ability it doesn't matter where the energy goes)

B) You could open with Virizion to accelerate

C) Venasuar is basically acceleration

D) Turn 1 attachment + Max Elixir + Turn 2 attachment = 3 Energy

Virizion (SHL) only accelarates [G] to itself, you could use Genesect's ability, but then you can't use the ability for elixirs, and you need to attach another energy to retreat Virizion in some cases.

 

[Vitiel]

A+D) I didn't see the OP had added max elixer it wasn't in the list before

B) OP isn't running Virizion, It'd also be better to run Reyquaza

C) Obviously I'm counting Venasuar, That's why I said you need 3 grass energy instead 6

Ray actually seems like an awesome idea with Venusaur what the heck?

 

[CaptZero]

Virizion (SHL) only accelarates [G] to itself, you could use Genesect's ability, but then you can't use the ability for elixirs, and you need to attach another energy to retreat Virizion in some cases.

What scenario would that be? Virizion has a 1 retreat cost. And you can directly max elixir your genesect if it's on your bench.

 

[jessalakasam]

What scenario would that be? Virizion has a 1 retreat cost. And you can directly max elixir your genesect if it's on your bench.

good point I was thinking about retreating first (It was early in the morning) What do you suggest I take out for them

 

[CaptZero]

good point I was thinking about retreating first (It was early in the morning) What do you suggest I take out for them

Probably 1 Fomantis and 1 Lurantis for two Virizion. Like I said I'm okay with one in there just to potentially make your math easier but it's not something to center your deck around. There's also Rayquaza to consider too. Ray feels like a late game play IMO while Virizion can get you going early on. There's also Shaymin from this set to consider. Having some shuffle draw in attack form isn't terrible and might be great for a deck that doesn't have a ton of draw power. You could also thin out your Venusaur line and add an Octillery.

 

[jessalakasam]

Probably 1 Fomantis and 1 Lurantis for two Virizion. Like I said I'm okay with one in there just to potentially make your math easier but it's not something to center your deck around. There's also Rayquaza to consider too. Ray feels like a late game play IMO while Virizion can get you going early on. There's also Shaymin from this set to consider. Having some shuffle draw in attack form isn't terrible and might be great for a deck that doesn't have a ton of draw power. You could also thin out your Venusaur line and add an Octillery.

a 1-1 line is too inconsistent and it helps me hit important numbers. I love the idea of Shay and Virizion but feel like everything is important RN

 

[CaptZero]

a 1-1 line is too inconsistent and it helps me hit important numbers. I love the idea of Shay and Virizion but feel like everything is important RN

It does help but putting a 2-2 line in there also makes your deck clunky. You're also running a stage two as a main part of your deck. If you start putting too many moving pieces in there then you come out the other end with an inconsistent deck that's not succeeding in doing anything of the things to designed it to.