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Fandango Flare (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

o0Flint0o

Aspiring Trainer
Member
Pokemon x14
Emboar Line:
x3 Tepig (BW promo #07)
x1 Pignite (Black and White #17)
x2 Emboar (Black and White #20)
x1 Emboar (BW Promo #21)
Attackers:
x3 Reshiram (Next Destinies #21)
x2 Reshiram EX (BW promo #36)
x2 Mewtwo EX (BW promo #45)

Items x22
x3 Super Scoop Up (Black and White #103)
x4 Energy Retrieval (Black and White #92)
x3 Heavy ball (Next Destinies #88)
x3 Switch (Black and White #104)
x2 Random Reciever (Dark Explorers #99)
x3 Rare Candy (Dark Explorers #100)
x2 PlusPower (Black and White #96)
x1 Pokemon Catcher (Emerging Powers #95)
x1 Super Rod (Noble Victories #95)

Supporters x11
x4 Professor Juniper (Dark Explorers #98)
x4 N (Dark Explorers #96)
x3 Cheren (Dark Explorers #91)

Energy x13
x9 {R} (Any theme deck)
x4 {C}{C} (Next Destinies #92)

Strategy
Obviously, you try to get Emboar out as soon as you can so you may have a constant stream of damage flowing.

Notes
-Some cards I have yet to receive a playset of. (Isn't that common knowledge, though?)
-I refuse to put a card on the list that I don't have.
-Expensive cards such as Pokemon Catcher are out of my reach. (Mostly.)
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

Bumping~
I edited a little bit, and I just want to know what you all think about this so far.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

counter? why not put in a mewtwo ex? :D from the tins would be the cheapest way to get it.
I would also like to point out that pluspower is a bit of a lack luster play these days with the loss of junk arm.
Rocky Helmet is a good alternative to eviolite and I personally like it more (I don't have a rocky helmet darn)
Lastly, I don't think random reciever would prove to be much help to you.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

r0naLd222 said:
counter? why not put in a mewtwo ex? :D from the tins would be the cheapest way to get it.
I would also like to point out that pluspower is a bit of a lack luster play these days with the loss of junk arm.
Rocky Helmet is a good alternative to eviolite and I personally like it more (I don't have a rocky helmet darn)
Lastly, I don't think random reciever would prove to be much help to you.

-I'll try to get my hands on Mewtwo EX soon. (One or two? I was thinking of Sigilyph instead also.)
-I still think PlusPower is good. It helps a handful for me sometimes.
-What to replace Random Receiver with?
By the way, I'm probably not going to buy any DraEX cards any time soon.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

o0Flint0o said:
-I'll try to get my hands on Mewtwo EX soon. (One or two? I was thinking of Sigilyph instead also.)
-I still think PlusPower is good. It helps a handful for me sometimes.
-What to replace Random Receiver with?
By the way, I'm probably not going to buy any DraEX cards any time soon.

-Mewtwo and a Sigilyph would be really good, but personally I'd like Bouffalant equipped with rocky helmet.

-with pluspower, i think it's more of a personal choice and if you think it goes good with your deck then by all means go with it. But if ever you replace it, go with a cheren or bianca. I really think you have a really small drawing power and that could hinder your deck from moving freely.

-you could replace random receiver with communication, seeing that you do only have 1 elgyem and it'd be quite rare that you always have it at the start of the game.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

r0naLd222 said:
-Mewtwo and a Sigilyph would be really good, but personally I'd like Bouffalant equipped with rocky helmet.

-with pluspower, i think it's more of a personal choice and if you think it goes good with your deck then by all means go with it. But if ever you replace it, go with a cheren or bianca. I really think you have a really small drawing power and that could hinder your deck from moving freely.

-you could replace random receiver with communication, seeing that you do only have 1 elgyem and it'd be quite rare that you always have it at the start of the game.

It's fun to have Bouffalant with Eviolite too. I've tried communication, but It just plain doesn't work for me.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

o0Flint0o said:
It's fun to have Bouffalant with Eviolite too. I've tried communication, but It just plain doesn't work for me.

yeah that would make Bouffalant take beatings like a truck. you could try to use tool scrapper over random receiver.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

I love my Reshiboar deck and a thing or two that I've noticed is the Plus Power was once very good but is now average as r0nald said. But I also agree that if you like it, use it. That's the point of playing after all, to have fun. Another thing is draw support/hand refresh. Setting up Emboar can be difficult at times and draw support greatly increases his chances of t2 Inferno Fandango.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

Ekklesia said:
I love my Reshiboar deck and a thing or two that I've noticed is the Plus Power was once very good but is now average as r0nald said. But I also agree that if you like it, use it. That's the point of playing after all, to have fun. Another thing is draw support/hand refresh. Setting up Emboar can be difficult at times and draw support greatly increases his chances of t2 Inferno Fandango.

He has N and Prof Juniper after all, it's still a strong draw power. But from my personal experiences with my BR reshiboar deck, it's almost always not enough. thats why I think there should be cheren or bianca included in his list but if this fits his playing style then good for him :) and reshiboar can still stand its ground in the current format, maybe a little weaker from what it used to be, but still strong when played correctly.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

First of all, I've built and played my version of this deck. I relied upon using 4 Super Scoop Ups for prize denial (not much in the format that can 1HKO a Reshiram EX!). And when you do get the heads flip, you can Fandango all that picked-up fire energy back down!!!

If water Poké is a real concern (haven't seen much given all the Eels decks), I'd suggest not worrying about them as oppose to a greater threat like Darkrai EX-based decks.

Assuming you have access/can get or borrow some cards, I'd suggest the following (very economical) changes:

-1 Elgyem
-2 ??? (water counter)
+3 Emolga (free retreating Poké with CfF attack)
- or -
+2 Pansear (Collect) - 70 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with card drawing 1st attack (for C energy cost)
+2 Simisear (Flame Burst) - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) inflicting 20 damage onto 3 opponent's Poké; or Simisear (Collect), - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) that can draw 3 cards

-1 Heavy Ball
-1 Level Ball
-2 Plus Power - won't make that much difference in long run since you are 1-2HKOing opponents' Poké
-3 Rocky Helmet
+2 Eviolite (for Reshiram EX)
+3 Pokémon Communication
+2 Cherren - more draw cards are needed, imho
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

TuxedoBlack said:
+2 Pansear (Collect) - 70 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with card drawing 1st attack (for C energy cost)
+2 Simisear (Flame Burst) - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) inflicting 20 damage onto 3 opponent's Poké; or Simisear (Collect), - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) that can draw 3 cards

Woah woah, I don't see how Simisear can help me at all... I think it's kind of weird suggesting this and not tool scrapper, since Simisear's Flame Burst can be blocked completely with Eviolite, giving me less choices to bench attack.

I'll put some Cherens in, and if I get them, Emolga and some SSU. Tool scrapper is kind of low priority since some people might not run tools anymore because of Tool scrapper.

I don't have a playset of Eviolite, and to tell you the truth, I partially prefer Rocky Helmet.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

TuxedoBlack said:
+2 Pansear (Collect) - 70 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with card drawing 1st attack (for C energy cost)
+2 Simisear (Flame Burst) - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) inflicting 20 damage onto 3 opponent's Poké; or Simisear (Collect), - 90 HP fire Poké, C retreat cost, with 1st attack (R energy cost) that can draw 3 cards

Excuse me, but I would just like to point out that in the current format of OVERPOWERED attackers, using a 90HP Pokemon as a part of the main attacking team is like handing out a free prize card to your opponent in competitive battling. A lot can OHKO it with one attack irregardless/regardless of weakness (Darkrai EX, Mewtwo EX,etc.) it's just too big of a liability IMHO. Flame Burst is blocked by Eviolite making it useless (and I think that using spread damaging would be slow in a deck that aims to OHKO or 2HKO every Pokemon in the game)
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

o0Flint0o said:
Woah woah, I don't see how Simisear can help me at all... I think it's kind of weird suggesting this and not tool scrapper, since Simisear's Flame Burst can be blocked completely with Eviolite, giving me less choices to bench attack.

I'll put some Cherens in, and if I get them, Emolga and some SSU. Tool scrapper is kind of low priority since some people might not run tools anymore because of Tool scrapper.

I don't have a playset of Eviolite, and to tell you the truth, I partially prefer Rocky Helmet.

I'm not sure exactly what cards are actually available to you; hence, I offered what I thought might be some easy to obtain, decent Poké for your deck. "Ideally", I'd suggest running 1 or 2 Terrakion in your deck as a counter to Eels and Darkrai EX - both of which you will more than likely face.

No doubt the cards you want to add should be in a priortized order based upon accessability, expected increased deck "strength", increased deck synergy, area metagame, etc.

r0naLd222 said:
Excuse me, but I would just like to point out that in the current format of OVERPOWERED attackers, using a 90HP Pokemon as a part of the main attacking team is like handing out a free prize card to your opponent in competitive battling. A lot can OHKO it with one attack irregardless/regardless of weakness (Darkrai EX, Mewtwo EX,etc.) it's just too big of a liability IMHO. Flame Burst is blocked by Eviolite making it useless (and I think that using spread damaging would be slow in a deck that aims to OHKO or 2HKO every Pokemon in the game)

Yes, in this current format of "overpowered" attackers, there are Poké, like practically all of the basic Poké, that will be easily 1HKOd. However, some of these Poké, like Sableye (in Hydreigon-Darkrai EX), can still be an important contributor to the deck.

Secondly, Simisear should be used as an early attacker, and yes, it will be KOd. BUT, if it is able to spread damage across opponent Poké for a turn or 2 (maybe KO 1 or 2 Tynamo?), and give one time to still setup, it may be worthwhile. And if an opponent chooses to protect his/her active and benched Poké (e.g., Tynamo, Deino, etc.), GREAT. That Eviolite is nullified after that basic Poké is evolved. So, that Eviolite was not attached to the most appropriate Poké, ideally speaking.

I recognize that Simisear is not an ideal choice, but thought it might be helpful given oOFlintOo's early comments regarding limited access to cards.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

TuxedoBlack said:
Yes, in this current format of "overpowered" attackers, there are Poké, like practically all of the basic Poké, that will be easily 1HKOd. However, some of these Poké, like Sableye (in Hydreigon-Darkrai EX), can still be an important contributor to the deck.

Secondly, Simisear should be used as an early attacker, and yes, it will be KOd. BUT, if it is able to spread damage across opponent Poké for a turn or 2 (maybe KO 1 or 2 Tynamo?), and give one time to still setup, it may be worthwhile. And if an opponent chooses to protect his/her active and benched Poké (e.g., Tynamo, Deino, etc.), GREAT. That Eviolite is nullified after that basic Poké is evolved. So, that Eviolite was not attached to the most appropriate Poké, ideally speaking.

I recognize that Simisear is not an ideal choice, but thought it might be helpful given oOFlintOo's early comments regarding limited access to cards.

Yes, I know where this is going, And yes, after completing it's duties I'd sacrifice Sableye for a prize if I'd get 2 catchers out of the discard pile Let's face it, if you even see a Pansear on the field you'd catcher it right away and go for an easy kill. Same goes for any basic Pokemon having HP lower than 90. And if it miraculously gets to Simisear and spreads like 20 damage to 3 other Pokemon, I'd just knock it out as soon as it's my turn to attack. And damage counters also serve as a power up to regular Reshiram's outrage attack if you just happen to forget. That's what I was pointing out; EASY PRIZE The last thing he'll want in a deck is something that would later be an "assumed" dead card even before he is able to use it.

I apologize if I may seem uhh.. "mean" in any way. I just want you to understand my point. I also do recognize your effort for thinking of other options with regards to flints limited cards. It could provide some sort of play in the deck, but (at the risk of repeating myself) using spread damaging would be slow in a deck that aims to OHKO or 2HKO every Pokemon in the game
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

About the tool scrappers - The only reason you'd need them is if anyone in your league uses Garbador or you plan on using this at BR or States. That's the only real use for them aside from those pesky Eviolites. But you are 2HKO'ing anything if you have 4 energies on your Reshiram EX so Eviolite isn't a huge problem. SSU+Inferno Fandango is awesome, also Cilan+Inferno Fandango is great as well. But seeing as you 10 supporters and 2 Random Receiver's, you shouldn't need Cilan. Go with 4 SSU if you can.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

The problem right now is getting the SSU's. I'm of course not going to buy any base BW packs unless it's from a tin.
I'll try to go to the league this Saturday and trade, and go to the Walmart/Target and get the tins. (I don't think they have tins at the comic book store I go to.)
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

I don't know if you have acces to a credit/debit card, but trollandtoad.com has very reasonable pricing on most cards.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

Ekklesia said:
I don't know if you have acces to a credit/debit card, but trollandtoad.com has very reasonable pricing on most cards.

Well, yeah, that's the problem there; I'm just 15. I'll try locally first before I ask anyone to buy for me though.
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

Maybe ask your parents or look on ebay.com?
 
RE: Blue Fandango (Reshiram/Emboar) -Revised!-

Oh, just remembered, that if you're not running 4 catchers, might as well go with 2 or 4 tool scrapper. Mewtwo EX/Terrakion with garbodor variants are a real pain >.<
 
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