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Flychamp Variation (Battle Roads-Masters)

Spyked

Spyked

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So. Any advice/help on changes would be awesome. Thanks!

1 Machamp Lv X
3 Machamp
2 Machoke
3 Machop
1 Flygon Lv X
3 Flygon
2 Vibrava
3 Trapinch
1 Nidoqueen
1 Nidoran F
1 Uxie Lv X
2 Uxie
1 Azelf
1 Unown Q
Pokemon: 25

1 Premier Ball
1 Luxury Ball
1 Flower Shop Lady
2 Expert Belt
2 Broken Time Space
2 Pokemon Collector
3 Professor Oak's New Theory
3 Bebe search
3 Pokemon communication
4 Rare Candy
Trainer: 22

7 Fighting energy
4 Double Colorless
2 Psychic energy
Energy: 13

i am considering dropping the nidoqueen line for a relicanth for an SP counter and maybe something else. advice would be awesome!
 
with the current format running 2 stage 2 line up is WAY to slow to compete
you wil leither get locked by vilegar or other lock decks before you get set up, or get knocked out by sheer speed by other SP Decks.
I suggest you drop the whole Flygon Line and do something like this for your Pokemon Lines

4-2-3-1 Machamp Lv.X
2-2 Donphan Prime
2-1-2 Nidoqueen or 1-0-1
2-1 Uxie X
1 Azelf

Obvi if you intend to change your pokemon line up your energy line up will need work such as

8 Fighting Energy
2 Psychic

and the rest can go in to maxing out Bebe's Search, increasing amount of rare candy and collectors

if you want me to make a full list and go off on that let me know, be happy to help
 
alright thanks for the tips! and sure. feel free to go off on a whole list. i could always use the help :) butt. ideally i would try to get out a machop then to a machamp to attempt a quick donk/take some quick prizes while i set up for flygon x to take the lead with power swing, sand wall, and wind erosion. plus it would offer free retreat for the whole deck with rainbow float.
 
ALRIGHT WELL
if you want to run donphan machamp heres the list

Pokemon 23
4-2-3-1 Machamp Lv.X
2-2 Donphan Prime
2-1-2 Nidoqueen
2-1 Uxie X
1 Azelf

Trainers 25
4 Bebe's Search
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Judge
3 Professor Oak's New Theory
1 Palmer's Contribution
3 Pokemon Communication
2 Expert Belt
3 Rare Candy
4 BTS

Energy 12
8 Fighting Energy
2 Psychic Energy
2 Cyclone Energy

So... here is the problem, you can take some cards out to put your own twist to it and you can choose to run warp point or cyclone energy, OR both but you would have to take some cards out. Warp Point is good if you wanna retreat a dying pokemon to get healed by Nidoqueen, however, Cyclone Energy will get you out of that first few turn lock by spiritomb before they get their vileplume out, most likely they will have 2 Spiritomb Start because they always just try to get vileplume out first so they dont think about dropping the 2nd anymore unless its about to die. I chose cyclone over warp point because it can give you that early advantage of using your trainers tog et set up big time
 
alright sweet, thanks for the help! and another quick question, i was thinking of running looker's investigation over oak's new theory or even the judges since it lets you look at your opponets hand as well. good/bad idea?
 
PONT > Looker's in this deck. getting a bench full of evo's is more important than hand disruption.

-2-1-2 Nidoqueen RR (Too many stage 2 lines makes for an inconsistent deck.
-2 {P} Energy
-1 {F} Energy
-1 Expert Belt
-3 Bucks
(-12)

+2 DCE
+1 Call Energy
+1 Rare Candy
+1 Pokemon Collector
+1 Bebe's Search ( alotsearch power is highly recommended for Flygon decks)
+1 Flower shop lady (Recovery)
+1 Unown Q (Incase of Uxie/Azelf starts)
+1 Chatot MD
+2 Energy Exchanger (getting DCE out is very vital come mid-game)
+1 Warp Point
 
Empoleon- so if i drop my nidoqueen line should i bump up flygon line to 3 2 3 1? and i actually was gonna put a chatot in haha. but thanks for the other suggestions! they're very helpful. any other techs that would go well with this if i drop the nidoqueen line?
 
nah, leave the Flygon line as it is. Just because you got rid of a pokemon line, doesn't mean you need to put in another line to replace it.
 
deck list updated! this list got me top cut at my battle roads last weekend. comments/help would be awesome :)
 
Since Machamp (SF) only has two retreat cost I recommend losing the Flygon line up and put in an Undaunted Dodrio line. Dodrio will lower your Active Pokemon's retreat by two (Which will give a Non Level. X Machamp free retreat and Nidoqueen/Lv. X Machamp 1 Retreat which your Unknown Q will take care of.)

So:

-3 Flygon
-2 Vibrava
-3 Trapinch

+1 Bebe
+2 Doduo
+2 Dodrio
+1 PONT
+1 Flower Shop Lady
+1 Nidorana (In case of Trainer lock preventing your rare candy to Nidoqueen)

I'd also remove two Pokemon Communicators and put in a 1-1 Blissy line from Platinum. This will allow you to discard uneeded cards (or trainers if you are in a trainer lock situation) and have some controlled healing.
 
So you're suggesting a straight machamp deck? Im not sure how i feel about that because ive tried, and one big problem i run into is the lack of actual attackers. With that setup you are limited to only the three machamps, which may not always be enough.
 
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