Garbodor Variants?

Sheriff_K

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I'm trying to come up with some [mildly] competitive Garbodor variants, so far these are what I have in mind:
- Raticate/Garbodor
- Bouffalant/Garbodor
- Darkrai/Garbodor


Each variant would use Virbank (with the exception of Raticate, since it's redundant), Lasers, and Bangles to be able to OHKO any EX Pokemon. Garbodor to nullify important opponent Abilities, most notably Virizion-EX's Verdant Wind which disables Special Conditions like Poison, and Blastoise's Deluge without which pretty much cripples a Keldeo/BK Deck. And Sableye's to Junk Hunt your Lasers, Scrappers, and Enhanced Hammers (only run 1-2, goes a long way.)

Raticate is more a "for fun" variant, but I've had great success with it, even against TDK. But is really susceptible to Catcher KOs and Bench damage (with the inclusion of Garbodor, Mr.Mime is out of the picture.) As such I'd run a few Silver Mirrors to stall enough to get enough energy on Raticate to OHKO an enemy Pokemon.

Bouffalant doesn't need much explanation. 120+30+30. Only needs 2 Energy, Bouffer+Silver Mirror makes him hard to get rid of, and he only gives away 1 Prize. With Garbodor's and Hammers, the enemy would be hard pressed to take 6 Prizes.

Darkrai loses the free retreat, but you'd just run 4 Float Stones and a few Switches to compensate. Darkrai with Dark Claw and Virbank/Laser can do 140 as early as turn 1. Hitting the Bench for 30 can help setup a Catcher KO the next turn.

And lastly, I do wonder if one could combine Darkrai, Bouffalant, and Garbodor into one Deck, or if it'd be too clunky of a list..

What do you guys think, as far as competitive Garbodor Decks go? ^.^
 
Personally, I run something like this:

3 Trubbish
3 Garbodor
1 Sawk PLB
2 Terrakion
3 Cobalion EX
2 Victini EX

You could also through in something like a Mewtwo EX or Tornadus EX DEX... Bouffalant works...but I think the line I run works pretty well. Sawk hits Thundurus and Absol for 100 damage for 1 C energy... Terrakion takes care of Darkrai, Cobalion is for Plasma, and Victini is for VirGen. Garbodor pretty much takes care of Blastoise...


Also, I've heard of people running PlasmaDor with Kyurem, Absol, and maybe Thundurus EX with Garbodor... sound interesting at least.
 
Interestingly enough, I too run a Garbodor deck and you'll need a Mewtwo EX to counter Blastoise, IMHO. In playing against a deck like Blastoise (yesterday), my opponent Tool Scrapper'ed away my tools (I had 2 Garbodors in play) for just the 1 turn, Deluge energy onto his 2 Keldeo EXs (my opponent wanted to keep the energy in play and not use Black Kyurem's Black Ballista attack), and started KO'ing my Poké. A good Blastoise player only needs that 1 turn to power-up his/her Poké before he/she starts taking prizes. So, you'll need a counter to Keldeo EX most likely.
 
I'm using Darkrai/Garbodor despite no Energy Switch. And that actual doesn't really matter to much for me as the deck still runs smoothly. However I do have problems with Virizion EX and sometimes Blastoise (but only if I have a hard time setting up Garbodor).

3 Darkrai EX
2 Trubbish (Any really but I only have DRX)
2 Garbodor
2 Sableye
1 Absol
1 Victini EX (This card is amazing if you can get this start, victory piece, darkrai on bench, and a dark energy on the darkai T2 night spear easily)


Your Master said:
what about zebstrika/garbodor?
I've tested it quite a bit and found it to be slow and unreliable when setup. It's a great idea and can work against some rogue decks but forget about top tier decks like TDK or VirGen.
 
Your Master said:
what about zebstrika/garbodor?

zebstrika/garbodor is the best I've seen.And any big basic will do with this deck.
Attaching Silver mirror onto Zebstrika with garbodor benched,only cards like Baby Rayqueza can touch your zebstrika.

Good luck :)
 
Zebstrika only inflicts 40/80 damage without a Tool. How well has the deck competed against top decks like Blastoise, KDT, VirGin, etc.? The Blitzles can be easily 1HKOd and even with manual attachment, it seems each of those top decks would have an attacker that can just 1HKO the Zebstrikas.

There are also a number of good, non-Team Plasma attackers; so, the Zebstrikas are not completely "safe," despite the attached Silver Mirror.
 
The best Garbodor variant right now is Darkrai-Garbodor period. Nothing else is consistent enough or powerful enough. However Garbodor honestly isn't the play right now due to everyone and their mother playing tool scrapper.
 
Gusto83 said:
Your Master said:
what about zebstrika/garbodor?

zebstrika/garbodor is the best I've seen.And any big basic will do with this deck.
Attaching Silver mirror onto Zebstrika with garbodor benched,only cards like Baby Rayqueza can touch your zebstrika.

Good luck :)

....what? Garbodor doesn't do anything for Zebstrika mirror. It doesn't stop cards with Abilities from attacking, it stops them from using their abilities. Non-plasma Pokemon with Abilities can still attack you...
 
Dark Void said:
Gusto83 said:
zebstrika/garbodor is the best I've seen.And any big basic will do with this deck.
Attaching Silver mirror onto Zebstrika with garbodor benched,only cards like Baby Rayqueza can touch your zebstrika.

Good luck :)

....what? Garbodor doesn't do anything for Zebstrika mirror. It doesn't stop cards with Abilities from attacking, it stops them from using their abilities. Non-plasma Pokemon with Abilities can still attack you...

Garbodor has float stone. better? lol oh and go check out this guys post http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-nxd-on-zebstrika-garbodor
 
Sure, but I don't see how Garbodor does anything to help Zebstrika. And Zebstrika's attack is terrible; its not worth the trainer lock unless you can also be immune to their attacks.
 
Dark Void said:
Sure, but I don't see how Garbodor does anything to help Zebstrika. And Zebstrika's attack is terrible; its not worth the trainer lock unless you can also be immune to their attacks.
Garbodor blocks off abilities which slows down decks even further. Garbodor makes Zebstrika better but still unplayable IMO. Other then that your point is solid.
 
I beat a TDK Deck with Raticate/Garbodor so badly, that the guy got mad... :p

I think he either wasn't able to draw Tool Scrapper, or just wasn't prepared for someone running Silver Mirrors. (Though even if he scrapped, I could just Junk Hunt them back...)
 
Running
3 Trubbish
2 Garbodor
4 Nosepass
4 Probopass
3 Mewtwo EX

works like a dream so far, only issue i would say i have is that it runs out of things to do sometimes and its either a toss up between win or lose with your board at that point
 
Probopass doesn't seem like a great attacker; could you explain how that works? I'm not seeing it.
 
Dark Void said:
Probopass doesn't seem like a great attacker; could you explain how that works? I'm not seeing it.

Probopass is for early game you set him up to deny energy to the pokemon they want to build up or just their active pokemon, after 1 Magnetic Lines and moving a energy to a pokemon used for a engine (Hydreigon, Electrik, Altaria) you know something they basically never want energy on you use Mewtwo and Catcher to clean up. Hes really their to help get your Mewtwo set up for late game while Garbodor keeps their ability powers in check.
 
2 players running Darkrai EX-Garbodor at this past weekend's Klaczynski Open made the Top 4 and one of these players won the tournament.
 
Zebgarb is really strong in this format. You absolutely destroy Plasma and VG, you have a favorable Blastoise matchup, and you can deal with Darkrai/Garbodor fairly easily. The only real threat to you is some random Landorus variants.
 
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