Global Warming

Is Global Warming a valid concern?

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nabby101

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Seriously. My dad is in to politics, and I have watched him go to meetings where he argues his head off about this crud. But honestly people, it's a valid concern, but yet, some of these people that my Dad talks with... it gets heated, even before the drinks.

I mean, I know what global warning is, I had to do reasearch for a school project, but still, I don't see the need for all of these "meetings" that end up getting an inch away from a big (huge) brawl.

So please tell me why the huge fuss!
 
I belive in global warming but heres the thing someone said that global cooling was going to happen and are we frozen right now nooooo anyway I think the earth is just going it's natural cycle that is all but we do need to stop a few things here and there (bombs). Edit first to post

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nabby101 said:
Yes, I believe that too.
Stupid people in Afganistan blowing it up.
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I think that the US should just say the heck with Afgan and up and leave I mean nothing good is going ot come of it the people there will never listen just leave before more people die.

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Very much so. I actually know someone that's over there fighting and he's like 'What they hey is the stupid military doing? They should know the afghans are to freakin' stubborn!'
 
If we tried to talk to a brick answer then we would get the same answer. UHHHH nothing

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Tristan said:
I think the earth is just going it's natural cycle
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You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. It's easy to just think this, but some people do actual research and come to different conclusions. The majority of the scientist who have researched the phenomenon agree that the current warming trend is human-induced. However, it's not as drastic as portrayed in Al Gore's film (which really isn't that trust-worthy as a whole, although it's quite a bit better than the Great Global Warming Swindle, which is just fraudulent), and the question remains whether or not we can actually still do something about it (heating and cooling can cause a chain reaction, causing a long period of global warming or cooling respectively, which is often hard to reverse).
I too believe that some things are a little more urgent, but this doesn't mean nothing at all should be done, even if it's just because we'll run out of oil not too long from now.

So yeah, at least these discussions your dad's in are better than nothing...
 
Sometimes he takes me with him, and I end up arguing against his point. Lol, it's fun looking smarter than my dad. But I don't see what you are saying. You're saying that it's us humans fault (which I totally believe), but then you are saying that we should be a LITTLE BIT urgent? That it's not going to go away for a long time, but don't worry about it too much?
Confusing.
 
I think some things are a little more urgent, we shouldn't be enforcing poverty in Africa just so there'd be less CO2-emission, for example. This however doesn't mean there shouldn't be any sense of urgency, as something most certainly needs to be done.
 
Like I said there are a few things humans need to stop (wars) other than that I do know that the earth is natrual. 1900-2000 did not help the earth at all with all the stuff happening. And with africa justr ignore it sometimes there is never going to be less Co2 there because a good lot of the content is poor.
 
@Tristan, first, please stop saying you ''believe'' in Global Warming, it's a fact the Earth is heating up, we observed it, so it's hard to believe in something what is true.

We shouldn't blame humans for it, well yes partly we should, but the Sun's Solar Flares are getting worser and worser (well at least more and more) until it reaches its peak in 2012, after that we should see a ''Global Cooling''. Somewhat like that, it's happens all the time. So yes partly it is natural.

But I know things like the fish industry should be blamed too, things like things might cause chain reactions what eventually will end in fastening the Global Warming.

We should be more caring to nature, but nature will heal herself eventually (at least if we give her time to heal herself).
 
Hmm, Tough topic. Im kinda half and half with this. We shouldn't be over dramatising the effects of Global warming. Fine it is a problem but yet again like anything else it doesn't come before Poverty/human rights etc. I do however believe that natural causes are part of global warming. The Holocene period for example.
 
Ok, let me get one thing straight, that stupid 2012 myth about the world ending is not true, so don't tie it in with global warming.

So you guys are saying that it's valid, and we should try to get rid of it, but then again, there are more important things. Right?
 
nabby101 said:
Ok, let me get one thing straight, that stupid 2012 myth about the world ending is not true, so don't tie it in with global warming.

So you guys are saying that it's valid, and we should try to get rid of it, but then again, there are more important things. Right?
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"Global Warming" is VERY complex, and can not be pinpointed as being caused by any one thing or another. There are uncountable factors that could be leading to the earth being warmer, from more CO2 in the air, to a natural cycle.

What does this mean? There are FAR greater problems than the earth warming up a bit that we are faced with, yet so many people seem to think that global warming is the only problem we face. China burning coal is more of a problem than Global Warming (and most likely contributes to it as well). Water pollution is also just as bad or worse than Global Warming.

So how do you take care of all these huge problems, even more so the ones that you can't find a definite cause to? IMO you start with the small things. Start with the little things, and eventually you'll fix the big problems. Everything is connected. You can't clean the lake before you clean the streams, and everything that drains into the streams etc...

Nature is very good at healing it's self. If we help it along with the little things, the larger problems will tend to fix them selves.
 
Pokequaza said:
We shouldn't blame humans for it, well yes partly we should, but the Sun's Solar Flares are getting worser and worser (well at least more and more) until it reaches its peak in 2012, after that we should see a ''Global Cooling''. Somewhat like that, it's happens all the time. So yes partly it is natural.
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There is some correlation between solar activity and global temperature, but it's not the cause of the current warming trend. And don't expect global cooling any time soon, we'd need some pretty serious reduced solar activity for that, which if I'm not mistaken is not something which is supposed to happen any time soon.

But yeah, global warming isn't about "believing", it's about looking at the data and concluding it's real. There were a few theories, most of which (amongst which was solar activity) have been falsified, and human activity is left as the only truly plausible explanation, with some good correlations and quite a bit of research done on the subject.
 
Really what it all boils down to is that you can never stop everything that is just the way it is but like Darth Pika said the little things that counts.

T
 
Are you trying to say that global warming is caused by Afghan suicide bombers?

Are you also trying to associate America with the suicide bombings in the Middle East? First off... suicide bombings were going on long before 9/11 and before America came in for this war in the Middle East. Secondly, are you seriously trying to say that global warming is caused by Afghan suicide bombers??
 
Heavenly Spoon :F said:
And don't expect global cooling any time soon, we'd need some pretty serious reduced solar activity for that, which if I'm not mistaken is not something which is supposed to happen any time soon.
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Ok, actually, the correct term is "Climate Change," the Earth is getting warmer in some places and cooler in others. For example, last winter, my state experienced one of the coldest, if not the coldest winter we've had in either 50 or 100 years (can't remember which). I know a girl whose dad is a news anchorman, and he did like an hour special on this, and he spent at least a month and a half researching this, so I know that this is true. I'm sure a lot of scientists mean climate change when they say global warming, as the latter is much more well known, and came first.
 
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