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Standard Greninja BREAK

momand

momand

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As you all should know, Greninja BREAK has swept the metagame ever since its debut in BREAKpoint. With Frogadier's outrageous attack and Greninja BREAK's ability, you are able to set up quickly and start spreading damage within the first few turns. With the loss of Dive Ball, Level Ball, and Repeat Ball, however, Greninja has lost quite a bit of its speed and consistency.
Skeleton List:
4x Froakie
4x Frogadier
4x Greninja
3x Greninja BREAK

4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
2x Skyla
1x Lillie
1x Fisherman
1x Guzma

4x Ultra Ball
3x Choice Band
2x Field Blower
1x Super Rod
1x Rescue Stretcher

3x Brooklet Hill

7x Water Energy

Missing Spots: 11

Tech Ideas:
Pokemon:
Tapu Fini GX: Tapu Fini helps for slow starts against faster decks such as Volcanion and Golisopod. Tapu Fini's GX attack, Tapu Storm GX, allows you to shuffle your opponents active Pokemon and all cards attached to it into their deck for a single water energy, as long as they have a benched Pokemon.

Tapu Lele GX: 2-prize support mons have never really been though of in this deck, but Tapu Lele is definitely a good card for this deck, allowing you to drop it and search for that Sycamore, N, Skyla, etc.

Espeon EX: With Stage 2 and Stage 1 decks being very good in the meta, (think Gardy, Metagross, Solgaleo/Rayquaza, Golisopod, Zoroark, etc), being able to devolve any of your opponents Pokemon is great, getting easy bench knockouts by using Giant Water Shuriken on one of your opponents evolved Pokemon, retreating into Espeon and using Miraculous Shine to devolve all of your opponents Pokemon and knocking out newly 60 HP mons.

Mr. Mime GEN: Not a very popular tech, Mr. Mime helps out your terrible Ninetales matchup, disabling the spread of damage of Tapu Koko, and disabling your opponent's ability to snipe 50 on the bench.

Starmie EVO: Starmie allows you to discard a card from your hand and take back 2 water energy you discarded either from using Giant Water Shuriken or getting knocked out.

Trainers:
Evosoda: A simple replacement for Dive Ball, Evosoda allows for more consistency.

Enhanced Hammer: Helps with the Golisopod/Garbodor matchup, which mainly runs Rainbow Energy and Double Colorless Energy to fuel attacks.

Acerola: Allows you to deny knockouts, and possibly get a cheeky 3rd Giant Water Shuriken.

Energy:
Splash Energy: Allows you to pick Greninja back up as soon as he's knocked out.

My Personal List:
4x Froakie
4x Frogadier
4x Greninja
3x Greninja BREAK
1x Staryu BKP
1x Starmie EVO
1x Tapu Fini GX
1x Espeon EX
1x Tapu Lele GX

4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
2x Skyla
1x Lillie
1x Fisherman

4x Ultra Ball
3x Evosoda
2x Field Blower
2x Choice Band
2x Enhanced Hammer
1x Rescue Stretcher
1x Super Rod

3x Brooklet Hill

7x Water Energy
3x Splash Energy

very similar to the one that got 2nd at hartford shut up

Overview:
Greninja BREAK is still a prominent threat in the Standard format. It hasn't lost much due to the rotation, so it's still pretty good against decks like Volcanion and Gardevoir.
 
Hahahaha! I was just about to say there is a 2-3 card difference from the 2nd place one! Anyway, I actually think Greninja is a great deck (though I never did want to admit). I really like your list, however, I would try to find room for 1 more Evo Soda. Its such a great card and its the card that lets this deck be "fast". I don't know what to drop, but I think it'd be OK to drop a Hammer or a Brooklet Hill.
 
FlavorfulPineApl said:
Hahahaha! I was just about to say there is a 2-3 card difference from the 2nd place one! Anyway, I actually think Greninja is a great deck (though I never did want to admit). I really like your list, however, I would try to find room for 1 more Evo Soda. Its such a great card and its the card that lets this deck be "fast". I don't know what to drop, but I think it'd be OK to drop a Hammer or a Brooklet Hill.
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I ended up thinking when I was building this list that dropping Lillie or Fisherman would be good to add the 4th Evosoda. I hardly ever use either of them in actual games to be completely honest
 
I much prefer the Talonflame variant or a variant with a thin Ninetales-GX line and heavy Guzma. But, personal preferences aside, this is a very solid list. I would go all in on the Evosoda and cut an E Hammer.
 
joffreyspikes said:
I much prefer the Talonflame variant or a variant with a thin Ninetales-GX line and heavy Guzma. But, personal preferences aside, this is a very solid list. I would go all in on the Evosoda and cut an E Hammer.
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Interesting that you mentioin a heavy Guzma line, as most of these Greninja decks ran none (or maybe one) of either Lysandre or Guzma. I know there is some legend about the "Triple Giant Water Shuriken", but Guzma isn't too need in this deck. Also, is there a reason you prefer the Talonflame variant? I find it better to use Water Duplicates as soon as possible and get your Greninjas rolling.
 
FlavorfulPineApl said:
Interesting that you mentioin a heavy Guzma line, as most of these Greninja decks ran none (or maybe one) of either Lysandre or Guzma. I know there is some legend about the "Triple Giant Water Shuriken", but Guzma isn't too need in this deck. Also, is there a reason you prefer the Talonflame variant? I find it better to use Water Duplicates as soon as possible and get your Greninjas rolling.
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Yeah I was thinking of heavy Guzma for Ninetales/Ninja so you can do 2 Giant Water Shurikens followed by an Ice Blade. And I just prefer Talonflame because it is a bit more consistent and the whole point of Greninja is to force your opponent to knock out 5 frogs and hopefully your bird to win. I can see Lele and Fini’s merits but I still prefer Birds. Additionally, you could turn it into a part GX deck (below I will post a list for this) but having just that one Lele/Fini is basically Guzma bait.
 
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My favoured Greninja list would be one that uses Greninja to spread some damage and then come storming in with Ninetales-GX, Tapu Fini-GX, 4 Aqua Patch and 3 Guzma (this would be better in Expanded with Archie but this is a Standard thread):

2x Greninja BREAK
3x Greninja
1x Frogadier
3x Froakie
2x Tapu Fini-GX
2x Alolan Ninetales-GX
2x Alolan Vulpix
3x Tapu Lele-GX

4x Professor Sycamore
4x N
4x Guzma
1x Brigette

4x Ultra Ball (oh, how I miss you Dive Ball)
4x Aqua Patch
2x Field Blower
2x Super Rod
3x Rare Candy

4x Brooklet Hill

7x Water Energy
4x DCE
 
Love this deck list. Would really consider a third field blower somehow as well since ability lock is really scary.
 
a bump!

With some of the new cards revealed and with some personal changing opinions, I have decided to update the list:
-2x N
-1x Lillie
-1x Fisherman
-1x Water Energy

+3x Cynthia
+1x Evosoda
+1x Gladion
 
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