HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime & Reshiram?

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So I saw the "Counter to Water-Type Decks" thread and I thought of the problem I've been having with my own decks: how to counter Donphan Prime?

The obvious type of choice would be Water-Type, but there's not a lot of good 1-1 {W}-Type techs HGSS-on. The only card I can think of is Lanturn Prime & Swanna.

Lanturn Prime has a problem - it's weak to Fighting itself! So I swiftly cast aside that idea.

Swanna was my next best bet. Its first attack, allows it to charge up its second attack by 40 damage, so I can do 140 damage to a Donphan Prime T2. It also has Fighting Resistance -20, which can help a lot.

I also thought of Bearic, which is an ingenious card to use against Donphan Prime. Unfortunately, Bearic won't be out 'til next set. :-(
Its first attack requires {W}{C}{C}, does 50 damage and prevents the opponent's current defending Pokemon from using any attacks during his/her next turn. Its 2nd attack needs 1 more {W} to do a straight 80 damage.

So guys, any suggestions?


No, I do not accept "YANMEGA PRIME" because it's too inconsistent as a tech. Just make a deck on its own...

EDIT 06/05/11: Now I need a counter to both Reshiram & Donphan Prime at the same time.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

hmmm do a straight beargatr... lock with the first attack. then just finish everything with its second attack. BUT you can just OHKO anything with magnezone. blastgatr will work also
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

I don't know if this counts or not, but if Donphan Prime is out, what about sending out Umbreon and using Moonlight Fang to prevent it from doing damage to Umbreon, Just a Suggestion :)
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

and at the same time chip awa donphans health 10 hp a turn? yeah not great. up to 50 hp a turn if you waste up to 4 darkness energy on it.
but running darkness energy removes the point of it just being a counter tech.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

Kingdra Prime works as a possible. Dragon Steam will do 100, but Spray Splash will add 10 more, and if you drop a PlusPower that is an OHKO; or failing that, you can just use Spray Splash on Donphan next turn for the KO.

The problem with Kingdra Prime is it's a Stage 2, HOWEVER it's got a sturdy 130 HP and its attack costs only 1 energy. I doubt there will be any Fire-types in Donphan decks either.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

The only fire type I could see being played in donphan would be a reshiram to be able to take advantage of earthquake. But I also agree that kingdra would be the best counter. Even if you aren't playing against donphan, you could always use spray splash with crobat g being gone soon.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

daviduk2000 said:
and at the same time chip awa donphans health 10 hp a turn? yeah not great. up to 50 hp a turn if you waste up to 4 darkness energy on it.
but running darkness energy removes the point of it just being a counter tech.
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I keep on forgetting about Exoskeleton *facepalms*
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

exoskelton is a pest. if you ask me the card may be slightly overpowered. 60 for 1, 90 for 3 . 120 hp stage 1, 20 less damage every turn.
the only bad thing really is its retreat.

but hes not game breaking in anyway just really good.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

I am laughing right now. As people are worried about the obvious decks that have no real chance of top cutting. Take Donphan Prime. Yes it is good early game. But once it heads to late game it doesn't stand a chance. As Stage 2 Decks and other stage one decks or even some basics can take it out rather easily. Minnicino, Ursaring Prime, Zekrom, Reshiram. Just to name a few. I know most of the people on these threads are running for the pampers.

But seriously people you shouldn't. You can still wear your big boy and big girl pants. As you will see that all this is for nothing. As the game rotates back to a simpler game where 10 or more decks will be competitive instead of 3 to 5 as it has been.
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

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And I laugh at the people who don't contribute to the thread itself. Thanks for the spam.

Ursaring Prime is weak to Fighting so I laugh at it being able to KO Donphan Prime, which only needs 1 Energy to Revenge KO Ursaring Prime.

Zekrom deals 120, -20 from Resistance, -20 from Exoskeleton... oh hey, Zekrom only does 80 damage to Donphan Prime, which can do 120 damage to Zekrom!

-sigh- I'm not sure if you're just trollin', but please don't bother to post if you're not going to post anything of any worth.

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Kingdra Prime's pretty good, but is there a card that can counter both Donphan Prime & Reshiram?
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

maybe the regular kingdra instead of the prime? after exoskeleton, kingdra could do 40 for 1 water and 140 for 1 water + 2 colorless (DCE for T2 attack) to donphan prime. just a thought...doesn't work as a bench tech though :/
 
RE: HGSS-On Counter to Donphan Prime?

Donphan prime has a late game and its called machamp prime.

In which deck do u need both a reshiram and donphan prime counter?
 
-cough- Mewbox lol... I used to run Mewbox with 2-2 Donphan Prime to counter Zekrom so yeah, xD I'm not too worried about Machamp Prime since Mew Prime can OHKO it with a Jumpluff Mass Attack.
 
if it's a mew deck then you don't really need to counter donphan because mew doesn't have same abilities and weakness..just same attacks (and even then, they're psychic attacks so resistance to fighting wouldn't help)
 
I laugh at everyone who knocks Ursaring. Yes it has a fighting weakness but if it is played right it mows through Donphan and I have done against speedphan and Don-Champ. Another thing teaming Reuniclus you can dump damage onto reshiram or zekrom and lay into it. It is not hard and it is a viable deck. I know everyone is scared of Donphan and want counters. But seriously these threads are pointless till we get a real meta going. So they are at best just speculation. So seriously say I am trolling when I am just a old school player laughing at the scrambling.
 
You could try Wailord which can OHKO the guy but I don't think it could fit well in Mewbox.
On the other side, while looking for {W} types with good attacks, besides the ones already mentioned, I found that Red Gyarados has a good solid first attack that does at least 30 and only costs {C} to use. There is the risk of him hurting himself, but he's got 130 HP, which on a stage 1 is a lot.

As people are worried about the obvious decks that have no real chance of top cutting. Take Donphan Prime. Yes it is good early game. But once it heads to late game it doesn't stand a chance.
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Donphan Prime is a tech as well as its own deck, and it'll probably see a lot of use next format because of Zekrom, which is ALSO a tech as well as its own deck. Since most decks can accommodate a 1-1 or 2-2 Donphan Prime in it, many decks will also need a legitimate answer to it.
 
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