Hgss on Honchkrow discard deck

[thepliskin5005]

This deck is maid for honchkrow ud its second attack vengence it does ten damage plus ten more for each dark pokemon in your discard pile. I have professor junipter and sagas training and junk arm for discarding dark pokemon. I dont have many sp darks in here because you cant shuffle them back in with flower shop lady.

Pokemon 25

4-4 honchkrow ud vengence
3-3 zelipard
3 sableye ud
4-4 scrafty Bw

Trainers and supporters 22

4 professor juniper
3 pokemon communication
2 defender
3 sages training
1 switch
1 revive
1 flower shop lady
3 junk arm
2 energy exchange
2 dual ball

Energys 13

6 dark
3 sp dark
4 dce

 

[Black Belt Rene]

-3 sableye i see no use other than pull out and you have revives. I would say -2 energy exhcange, -2 defender,-1 switch, -2 scraggy, -2 scrafty. +4 sneasel +4 weavile +4 seeker.(seeker puts pokemon back to opponents hand then weavile gets rid of it. Sneasel beats up for potentially 120 because of pokemon collector. -2 dark +2 sp dark. (theyre just better/why not do more damage?)

 

[Mr.Ferrari]

-3-3 houndoom ud
-3 sableye ud
-2-2 scrafty Bw
-2 defender
-3 dark
=18

+2 sp dark
+2-2 Mandibuzz BW
+2-2 Zoroark BW
+2-2 Umbreon UD
+3 Dual Ball
+1 Pokegear 3.0
=18

just took out some useless cards really, I added some tec darks in to make your deck more versitile and have more options so umbreon for donphan mandibuzz is just great and sometimes a better attacker then honchkrow. duall ball your hand up with basics then discard with juniper or junk arm and repeat.

 

[thepliskin5005]

Well mandibuzz first attack wont help this deck much because i dont have a way to do bench damage. And rember i said no sp darks because i cant shuffle them back in. Umbreon isnt good because evee is collerless and pokemon now have abilitys.

The seeker and weavile idea sounds good but weavile just isnt a good attacker but scrafty is a very good attacker. I tock out all the houndoom and put 3+3 zelipard and 1+1 scrafty.

Sableye is amazying for this deck its first attack i can choose any card out of my discard pile and put it on top of my deck like i can choose dce and flower shop girl for a prime example.

 

[Futa]

Well mandibuzz first attack wont help this deck much because i don't have a way to do bench damage. And rember i said no sp darks because i cant shuffle them back in. Umbreon isnt good because evee is collerless and pokemon now have abilitys.

The seeker and weavile idea sounds good but weavile just isnt a good attacker but scrafty is a very good attacker. I tock out all the houndoom and put 3+3 zelipard and 1+1 scrafty.

Sableye is amazying for this deck its first attack i can choose any card out of my discard pile and put it on top of my deck like i can choose dce and flower shop girl for a prime example.

Weavile >>>>>> Scrafty. Sure, Weavile isn't a good attacker. Which is why you don't attack with Weavile at all. Weavile, only being a tech, only serves to be dumped into the discard pile or to use its Power. Scrafty, on the other hand, isn't good. 3 for 70 is very poor, and a flippy paralysis isn't great either.

Umbreon in still good. By the time you hit an HS-on format, the only Pokemon that has an Ability that you should be worried about damaging you is Serperior. Cards like Steelix, Donphan, Scizor, Machamp Prime, etc. should still see some play.

4 Special Darkness Energy is still the way to go. True, you can't recover it with Flower Shop Lady. Did that stop cards like DCE, DRE, and Scarmble from being played? It didn't. You still have 5 Basic Darkness Energy in the end (which is more than enough), you should still be fine.

 

[thepliskin5005]

But some times you have no choice to attack with weavile if you had sneasil in your starting hand you would have no choice to attack with him.

Scrafty is real good they will be burned no matter what and they may also be paralized and it does twenty damage. And remeber evee is collerless so its not a good idea to put him in.

Ill be adding one special dark in here. Bump

 

[Futa]

You will NEVER be attacking with Weavile. That's all that needs to be said. If Sneasel is active, attack with Sneasel or retreat. Just because a Pokemon is Active doesn't mean you can attack with it.

As for Scrafty, a paralyze is cool and all, but it's flippy. Always getting Burned isn't great either, since it's also flippy. As for Eevee being Colorless, it doesn't matter. Not all of your Pokemon has to be Darkness. In Charizard decks (for example), people still tech in cards like Spiritomb and Uxie.