It is officially BW-on!

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The new format as of September 1st has been announced. I think this is a smart descision on TCPi's move. Can we expect them to start copying Japan's format from now on? I think so because first they copied HGSS-on and now BW-on.

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I'm so happy about that. CoL-on would be bad for the game IMO. Thanks for posting that btw, I found it very helpful.
 
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We all got what we've been hoping for - BW-On. Finally. Thought this means I can't play Leafeon any more, It does mean that the format slows down to a reasonable pace.
 
I was hoping for EP-on to sync the reverse-foil rares. with all the reprints we've had in the past few months, such an idea wouldn't have had a massive impact on the game compared to BW-on...

but yeah, I think most of us were expecting this anyway, so it's great to finally have confirmation
 
R.I.P. Dual Ball, PONT, Smeargle, Junk Arm, Sage's Training, every LEGEND card, every Prime card.

That's all that matters (to some extent).

Yay, I'm totally ok with this format.
 
The obvious...has now been stated. Unfortunately, it wasn't by me, which is the only thing that saddens me.
Eh, we've lost CoL, but so what? We'll live. We lived without Arceus set in this format, so we'll live without CoL in this next one.

I had this weird thought that they'd do something weird like Emerging Powers-on, but that would be weird and impractical (since you lose PokeCom).
 
I'm disappointed that the format isn't CoL-On. I've done a decent amount of testing, and CoL-On is much better than BW-On in my opinion. Without PONT and Dual Ball, the format is way too reliant on what you draw at the beginning of your turn. The amount of hand refresh is extremely limited, and stage 2 will be next to impossible to play. It is still a decent format though, I'm excited to further my testing. Expect Great Ball and Cheren to see a lot more play.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
The obvious...has now been stated. Unfortunately, it wasn't by me, which is the only thing that saddens me.
Eh, we've lost CoL, but so what? We'll live. We lived without Arceus set in this format, so we'll live without CoL in this next one.

I had this weird thought that they'd do something weird like Emerging Powers-on, but that would be weird and impractical (since you lose PokeCom).
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And Switch. x_x
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
The amount of hand refresh is extremely limited, and stage 2 will be next to impossible to play.
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Garchomp Altaria is a very popular deck in Japan, along with Darkrai/Hydreigon. I'd say they are great plays.
 
AWWWWWWWWW YYYEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
I slacked a bit with the HS sets, but went all spaz on the BW ones, so this is good news for me, but sad that PONT, Collector, Sage's, Dual Ball ect. all go.
 
This is great! I wanted a BW-on format soooooo bad! Let's slow down the game some and give Stage 2s playability! WOOHOO! I may have to remake Seismituff to see how it does.
 
CL-on would have been better so we could keep Smeargle. But the existence of Dual Ball would have been bad at the same time. So this format is alright; certainly not ideal.
 
We'll see if they release Dual Ball in future sets, though. I think they'll bring it back. There are still plenty of sets to be released, so we've got time before we freak out. I do like this format though.
 
Well I'm glad the format shift won't take place until September 1st. This format shift means Donchamp is out of the window, my other competitive deck is Lost Gar, and they'll be tossing that aside too. Guess I'll have to find something else to do. I'm obviously really sad to see 2 of my favorite Pokemon (Electrode, Machamp) leave the format, but I'll have to think of something. BLEH X[ !!
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
I'm disappointed that the format isn't CoL-On. I've done a decent amount of testing, and CoL-On is much better than BW-On in my opinion. Without PONT and Dual Ball, the format is way too reliant on what you draw at the beginning of your turn. The amount of hand refresh is extremely limited, and stage 2 will be next to impossible to play. It is still a decent format though, I'm excited to further my testing. Expect Great Ball and Cheren to see a lot more play.
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Max out Juniper, Bianca, and Random Receiver then throw in an N or two and you're good. I will miss Smeargle though.
 
now i cant use my dark dark toolbox
well then time to play garchomp then
when the new set is released
 
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YYYUUUUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!

I just got home and saw the news. SO happy, I hate Smeargle, Dual Ball, Junk Arm, and every trainer that speeds this overly fast format up. FINALLY I format that isn't so hyper fast, donk oriented, and Basic oriented. With new decks coming in like Garchomp and Hydreigon, the format is in for a change for the better.
 
I don't see this rotation drastically altering the format like past rotations have. Most of the top decks still exist and are actually viable, and the only Tier 1 deck that we really lose is CMT. I guess we also lose Speed Darkrai with Smeargle leaving, but the main compononent of that deck, Darkrai, is still present. Zekrom/Eelektrik and Darkrai are still here, and it seems the new set will be changing decks more than the rotation itself will be. We gain Darkrai/Hydreigon and Garchomp/Altaria, as well as possibly Eelektrik/Rayquazya, or at least Rayquayza in Eelektrik variants as a tech.

Past rotations have revolutionized which decks can be played and are viable. For example, this past one that went from MD-On to HGSS-On made all the top decks obsolete. LuxChomp, DialgaChomp, SableLock and other SP Variants, Gyarados, and Vilegar were all completely gone. The format was left to be explored and figured out, and it was still being explored up until Worlds/Nats, when people jumped on the Yanmega train all of a sudden. This next format is pretty predictable already, and there isn't very much exploring to be done. The top decks should be Darkrai variants, Garchomp/Altaria, and Zekrom/Eelektrik. I'm sure there are some tier 2 decks I'm missing, though.

Still, my main point is that this rotation doesn't bring new decks to the table, nor does it make very many obsolete. It will change how decks are built a little without Junk Arm, I guess. It will also force people to play more conservatively with their trainers, especially Catcher and Switch. Still though, this rotation won't be as groundbreaking as past ones because of the insane power creep starting in BW, which has made the majority of HGSS cards, mainly attackers, completely useless and unable to stand up to the high HP and damage the BW cards have to offer.

Anyway, my point is that this rotation doesn't really affect players very much, especially in comparison to past rotations.
 
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