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Kingdra/Champ Master's States

ctaylor33

Aspiring Trainer
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A few days ago I posted a Kindra/Phan deck and got some great feedback. I am realizing that not just Luxray GL is a problem for me but all SPs since they can so easily heal themselves and Kingrda can't hit for enough to 1HKO them (when they are leveled up). So I decided to tech in Champ instead of Donphan, but it has really changed the deck:

Pokemon (21):
4-3-4 Kingrda (3/1 Prime/LA)
2-1-2 Machamp
2 Uxie LA
1 Regice LA
1 Crobat G
1 Unown Q

4 Rare Candy
3 BTS
4 Bebe's
3 PONT
3 Seeker
3 Collector
4 SSU
2 Warp point
2 Expert Belt
2 Communication
1 Lux Ball

4 Water Energy
4 Rainbow Energy

Someone in the other thread suggested fighting energy instead of Rainbow but I like Rainbow for a possible donk. I would hate to have a Kingdra Prime on turn two of the game and only fighting energy in hand.

All advice/suggestions are most welcome. Thanks!
 
had a terrible tournament. Went 2-4 with 3 of my losses at the hands of Lux/Chomp. The Machamp line was terrible. Didn't get it setup once the entire day. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
 
Which Machamp are you using? I would beef up the line to 4-3-4, 2 SF and 2 Prime. This way Rainbow Energy will be more effective, and Machamp's Champ Buster will do more damage. There are definitely some T/S/S you can take out for this, and you may want to add a few Fighting and Double Colorless Energies.
 
I ran 2 SF Champ to help against SPs. I will give the Prime a try, or I am thinking about Donphan with Kingdra.
 
4-3-4 Machamp(Sf-Tu-Sf/Prime)
3-1 Uxie
4 Unown R
1 Mesprit
1 Regice
1 Giratina Let loose
1 Q
1 Azelf
=24

4 Collector
4 Seeker
3 Bebes
3 Comm
3 Candy
3 BTS
2 Rescue
2 Belt
1 Luxball
=25

4 DCE
7 Fight

Beats Sp most of the time. Pokemon rescue for Unown R along with going full out SfChamp. Hope I helped~!
 
Nice build. Thank you! Could you help me put something like that together for straight Kingdra? or is it not worth playing Kingdra with all the Lux/Chomp running around?

This is the list have now:

Pokemon (20):
4-3-4 Kingdra (LA-LA-2LA/2Prime)
2 Uxie LA
2 Crobat G
1 Chatot MD
1 Regice LA
1 Unown Q
1-1 Floatzel G Lv X

T/S/S (33):
3 Rare Candy
3 BTS
3 Bebe's
3 PONT
3 Seeker
3 SSU
3 Poke Turn
3 Communication
3 Collector
1 Lux Ball
2 Expert Belt
2 Warp Point

Energy:
8 Water

What do you think?
 
Instead of putting Floatzel GL L.X, put Exploud, it's more effective against Luxchomp.
 
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