Discussion Klefki Tech

[WindierWeavile]

With M Rayquaza looking to be the top dog of the standard format for the 2016-2017 season, will the new Klefki from Steam Siege be used in decks to help against M Ray? Klefki's ability allows it to become a tool to prevent any damage from Mega Pokemon, so I want to hear what you guys have to say on this.

 

[PMJ]

Not likely. It's a Basic Pokemon so there's the danger of starting with it, but the risk isn't worth the reward. Its attack is awful and it doesn't even have free retreat. It gets discarded at the end of your opponent's next turn, so Ray can just retreat and attack with someone else for the turn.

If you want to give Mega Rayquaza a hard time, Giratina-EX is probably your best bet. Renegade Pulse forces Ray to use Hex Maniac just to get some damage in. If you can get Parallel City into play, drop their Bench to three and use Chaos Wheel to lock it in play. A belted Chaos Wheel cleanly 2HKOs Mega Rayquaza.

 

[Danglesmcjangles]

I think Klefki could make a decent 1-of in some decks. Megas look like they'll be big and Klefki is a splashable counter to all megas. On top of that, it looks like it'll be very tough to remove tools for awhile which will make klefki that much more annoying. The last point I'll make is that Ninja Boy makes starting support pokemon a little less painful.

 

[poke4trade]

I don't think Mega Ray Ray is going to be that good in standard. If anything, the next format will strengthen Giratinia. It will be dumb luck if you get the hex and Lysandre in the discard on T1.

So ya, If two Giratnia's hit the bench Ray Ray will go on his heels quickly.

Here is how I would run the Ray Ray deck. Your better option is to play Ray Ray with Xernias Break. With 4 energies on the board you will 80*2 = 160 on giratinia. Garitinia is weak to fairy. Unfortunately, once you break into him the fight furry belt mutes. But instead of fighting fury belt, run max elixir. With one more energy on the board, you would have a really good shot of OHKO Gartinia on turn three, or if you go second turn two. But besides that match up, Xernias break will be a very reliable attacker because there is a good chance you could hit anywhere between 80 to 120 points of damage while charging up other Pokemon on the board very fast. In this meta you are going to want play more from your deck than your discard pile because your discard pile will be unreliable. I think super rod will be a pretty big card in the meta to get things back that you really didn't want to throw away.

 

[AuraJackle]

If i was a rayquazza player against a giratina player i would focus more on getting regice or jolteon set up or just using one of the 2 Hex maniacs thats often played in ray decks to just wipe out the giratina. Klefki is pretty situational but mayb use it in a raichu deck without bats and bronzong raichu will need more clever options to fill up their bench anyway

 

[PMJ]

Sure, that works too. I'm not familiar with Ray decks so I don't really know waht goes in them.

 

[kai88]

I believe hex does discard the klefki, as it is no longer a tool at that point. Therefore, this just slightly increases the need for hex. Otherwise, I feel it may be good in rayquqaza itself, as klefki is great when attached to a jolteon.

 

[WastedSkyPirate]

I believe hex does discard the klefki, as it is no longer a tool at that point.

This is a great point to raise!

If TPCi decide that Hex Maniac shuts off Klefki's Ability when it is attached as a Pokemon Tool Card (thus discarding it), it's usefulness will dramatically drop. Otherwise, I can see it being a very viable tech in most decks. There is a lot of theorymon on these forums that the big decks of PRC-On will revolve around Mega Pokemon such as Mega Rayquaza, Mega Mewtwo (Y), Primal Groudon and Mega Sceptile.