Krooked Thorns (HGSS on) (Any)

[Gengar_is_Pwnage]

Pokémon:
4-3-4 Krookodile
3-3 Ferrothorn ( I dont know if hes coming to NA but who can fill the void)
2 Skarmory UD/COL (Who can fill the void)
2-2-2 Reuniclus


Energy:
8 Fighting
4 Special Metal
4 DCE

T/S/S

Pokémon Communicaton x4
PONT x4
Professor Elms Training method x2
Pokémon Collector x3
Rare Candy x4
Seeker x2



Get Ferrothorn and Krookodile out ASAP and Gyroball to switch into Krookodile to use Krookoroll. Just something I thought up. I also have no idea what else I can use for T/S/S. Help!

 

[Ahiro]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

Just an advice... I dunno for what are you using Onix, but if you're using it as a healer, it only can heal itself, not every pokemon. It was a mistranslation.

Also, if you're using Death Roll's effect more effectively, you can add Spiritomb TM, Mismagius (from Undaunted... forgot the abreviation) or Espeon UD.

 

[ogeray]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

onix's energy healer pokebody has been errata'ed
it only applies to onix

 

[Gengar_is_Pwnage]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

Aww dang! To think it would be errata'ed to just heal itself makes me angry but, now I need someone to fill the void. Any ideas?

 

[jacobnmick]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

Finnally someone that started making hgss on decks
-3 onix
+1-0-1 krookadile
+1 rare candy

 

[Ahiro]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

For healing you have Nidoqueen RR, Bellossom UD or Serperior B/W (I don't remember if it's ability only applies if it is active...). If you're building HGSS-on, you only have Bellossom UD.

 

[Pokemunkulys]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

I would remove Ferrothorn and just use Kingdra Prime to activate death roll, streamlining your setup and include a line of Serperior for healing.

Pokemon:
4 - 3 - 4 Krookodile
2 - 1 - 2 Kingdra Prime
2 - 1 - 2 Serperior

with 4 Rare Candy. I think it could work really well, and the reason I would prefer it to your previous list is it is faster and also quite survivable, and KO's almost all non-stage 2's in one turn, and depending on how many Kingdra Primes you have out hits 120 HP. You could also include a 1 - 0 - 1 Reuniclus so you can spread damage from Krookodile to your entire party so Serperior can heal more each turn.

As for trainers, for more consistency and setup:
-1 Professor Elm's Training Method
-2 Crush Hammer (I assume this is what you mean by Energy Crush)
-4 Energy Retrieval
+1 Flower Shop Lady
+1 Pokemon Collector
-1 Pokemon Catcher
+4 Great Ball
-1 Recycle
+3 Cheren
-1 Professor Oak's New Theory
+1 Professor Juniper

To make it really speedy, and replace the Energy:
-3 Basic Metal
-4 Special Metal
+4 Double Colorless Energy
+2 Rescue Enegy

Which I think gives you about 2 or so extra spaces.

 

[Gengar_is_Pwnage]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

The only thing about those suggestions I'm not too keen on is:
Professor Juniper
2-1-2 Kingdra Prime
The removal of Energy Retrieval

Why these Specific changes? Ferrothorn is a cool card and I like him thats why hes in there.

I do like Serperior and will put him in once I get an idea of how I play test the first idea, and if hes required.

 

[Gengar_is_Pwnage]

RE: Krooked Thorns (HGSS on, just incase) (Masters, Any)

Bump!