This, however, is a good idea.Since @GM DracLord is gonna die tonight, it would certainly be best for him to claim, as he won't get to tell us his results tomorrow.
This, however, is a good idea.Since @GM DracLord is gonna die tonight, it would certainly be best for him to claim, as he won't get to tell us his results tomorrow.
Hey I'm gonna be on iPad for next two and a half days including now, so expect small infrequent posts because this site sucks on mobile and especially an iPad Mini 1.
I quite like Mariano's reads, though we have no reason to hang Drac since he's dying tonight (nobody heal him), so I'd go with scattered, since all of his efforts to prevent me from being cleared scream desperate scum and he's once again not been making connections, which is pretty indicative of his recent scum meta.
##VOTE: scattered mind
I've already claimed, so I'd say it's a good idea. Sheriff and Doc are potentially left though, so I'm not sure if it's worth it. The again, we do need all the help we can get right now.
Since @GM DracLord is gonna die tonight, it would certainly be best for him to claim, as he won't get to tell us his results tomorrow.
There's a very good chance you're a Jugg or at least a member of the Coven, so it only makes sense to let you die. From your point of view, you may be a townie. But from mine, you're most likely scum. A.K.A. This is basically an OMGUS.On an earlier post you request the doctor not to protect anybody and now the way I read it you are suggesting that nobody heal me. This 2 posts make me think you are aligned with the coven. Seeing that if I never claim to be poison, the doctor didn't protect anyone and I will die. I conclude you kinda knew there'ss a poisoner in game hence making you aligned with the coven
Also, I can still be save if someone cures me. Surely the coven would rather I die.
##VOTE: NinjaPenguin
Is Juggernaut a word you've heard before?NP, I wasn’t trying to make efforts to make you look scummy, you said you were confirmed town and I really didn’t understand why due to the other existence of team/indies whatever.
And I didn’t use the word Coven because it is a new word for me. Never heard it before (I’m not a native speaker)
Backpedal.NP, I wasn’t trying to make efforts to make you look scummy, you said you were confirmed town and I really didn’t understand why due to the other existence of team/indies whatever.
I can see where NP's coming from, even if it's faulty logic. Wouldn't say it's a scumtell.On an earlier post you request the doctor not to protect anybody and now the way I read it you are suggesting that nobody heal me. This 2 posts make me think you are aligned with the coven. Seeing that if I never claim to be poison, the doctor didn't protect anyone and I will die. I conclude you kinda knew there'ss a poisoner in game hence making you aligned with the coven
He's been poisoned. There's literally no chance that he's part of the coven.There's a very good chance you're a Jugg or at least a member of the Coven, so it only makes sense to let you die. From your point of view, you may be a townie. But from mine, you're most likely scum.
No, it isn't. You never pressured him. It's not an OMGUS. Nice try though.This is basically an OMGUS.
Does the doc protect from the NK or heal poison in this game?The one person I request the doctor to protect is themself, since they are the only person they know is 100% confirmed town. And Quaking should use a vest on himself. And I'll of course take a protection, but there's no real reason to kill someone who's vanilla at this point.
Is Juggernaut a word you've heard before?
Backpedal.
Did quaking claim to be some role that is not a townie? And if so, what's the reason not to lynch him?
Don't like this either. NP explained what the juggernaut does; you even used the word yourself, showing that you're aware of its presence. If you knew what it does, then you should've also known that before anything else, the juggernaut needs to go.
I don't agree with this. Gekki did some strange plays but nothing too convincing to mark him as scum.Gekki was legitimately scummy. He claimed early, strawmanned, and his points on just about everyone could be boiled down to WIFOM. I'm astounded he flipped town.
Yeah, I know. If he does something suspicious, my eye will be over him too.NP's not confotown, just slightly less likely to be scum than everyone else. Don't automatically assume that he's cleared.
I beleive this is the moment to ask. Can someone explain me what's the meaning of WIFOM? I know it stands for "Wine In Front Of Me" and I read its definition in the Mafia Master Document, but I still don't understand itThat's a more WIFOMy point than anything Gekki's done all game. :U
It can be possible. I needed to assing the remaining roles to the players alive, so if I made a mistake with someone, another player will take the vacant role.You're looking into that assuming from the start that I'm aligned with the coven, which is a faulty assumption to begin with. If it helps your reads at all, I'm convinced scattered is anti-town and likely juggernaut.
Drac could be lying.He's been poisoned. There's literally no chance that he's part of the coven.
Probably protect from nightkill.Does the doc protect from the NK or heal poison in this game?
In real ToS, Doc protects and heals. I'd assume this would be the same. Note that morda and I are scum by PoE, but Mariano still is out there and so is Drac, even if we shouldn't hang him today.Backpedal.
I can see where NP's coming from, even if it's faulty logic. Wouldn't say it's a scumtell.
He's been poisoned. There's literally no chance that he's part of the coven.
No, it isn't. You never pressured him. It's not an OMGUS. Nice try though.
Does the doc protect from the NK or heal poison in this game?
Gonna be at San Jose Regs all day, so V/LA for a while. Currently reading scattered as juggernaut, NP and mord as coven by process of elimination. ##VOTE: SCATTERED MIND
Someone not on an iPad, please check to see if the word Coven was there earlier on that page.It was at the very same page so I didn't have to recall it.
WIFOM is basically analyzing actions in a way that leads to logic like "Scum could have killed Joey to eliminate threats to them, but they could have done it to frame Mark, but they could have expected we'd think that and killed the threat to them, etc." The term is based on the kind of logic used in a Monty Python scene.I don't agree with this. Gekki did some strange plays but nothing too convincing to mark him as scum.
Yeah, I know. If he does something suspicious, my eye will be over him too.
I beleive this is the moment to ask. Can someone explain me what's the meaning of WIFOM? I know it stands for "Wine In Front Of Me" and I read its definition in the Mafia Master Document, but I still don't understand it
It can be possible. I needed to assing the remaining roles to the players alive, so if I made a mistake with someone, another player will take the vacant role.
Regarding the votes... I won't be online in the next couple of hours so I'll ##VOTE: scattered mind because I beleive he is part of the Coven, he already has 2 votes and looks like a good candidate for the first trial of the day.
Interesting agreed thought with me on a potential Jabber Mariano scumteam. Certainly increases his chance of being town in my mind.Drac could be lying.
Probably protect from nightkill.
Right now I think quaking and NP are almost defenitely town and Jabber and mariano the most scummy. Will make a better post tommorow but just wanted to put my thoughts out here.
It's a bit complicated term, but I think I got the idea. Thanks!WIFOM is basically analyzing actions in a way that leads to logic like "Scum could have killed Joey to eliminate threats to them, but they could have done it to frame Mark, but they could have expected we'd think that and killed the threat to them, etc." The term is based on the kind of logic used in a Monty Python scene.
Haha yes, maybe. I only tried to guess what was your idea at that moment.That's a more WIFOMy point than anything Gekki's done all game. :U
Looking forward to see itRight now I think quaking and NP are almost defenitely town and Jabber and mariano the most scummy. Will make a better post tommorow but just wanted to put my thoughts out here.
NP started talking about the coven literally the post right after the Daybreak update, and we as the collective town have definitely been talking about it for much longer.It was at the very same page so I didn't have to recall it.
Yeah okay I'll concede this. I guess I read your first couple of posts as being more accusatory than they really were. It's still a backpedal 'cause you made a point and then took it back, but it's not a particularly scummy one.It's not a backpedal. Read what I said. quote my 2 posts and show where the backpedal is.
It has to do with the juggernaut because you ignored the biggest threat (the juggernaut) in favor of what you had hoped would be an easy lynch (the survivor). The fact that you're aware of the juggernaut's existence means that you couldn't have overlooked it as a threat; ergo, you consciously chose not to go after it. Because you're the juggernaut.Wait.. I don't understand. You replied with that quote to my quote above, but in that quote of mine I am referring to Quaking's claim of being a surv, (which later on I saw means survivor) so what does that have to do with the Jugger thing? I am confused.
The case on Gekki made way more sense than your case on Drac. :UI don't agree with this. Gekki did some strange plays but nothing too convincing to mark him as scum.
Poison is an incredibly risky thing to lie about. If Drac doesn't die tonight then it's obvious he was lying, and he'll be turbolynched tomorrow. There's still a decent chance that we'll have a "tomorrow", so it's not the sort of play I can see Drac making. It's just too risky.Drac could be lying.
It's not Monty Python. It's a reference to a scene from The Princess Bride. For shame, NP. :U (fwiw that link is well worth a watch; it's the prime example of WIFOM––literally)WIFOM is basically analyzing actions in a way that leads to logic like "Scum could have killed Joey to eliminate threats to them, but they could have done it to frame Mark, but they could have expected we'd think that and killed the threat to them, etc." The term is based on the kind of logic used in a Monty Python scene.
Nope, it's absolutely an echo. The essence of a rhetorical question is that it implies an answer––what Jade said was exactly what Gekki said in content if not in semantics, only without the question mark––which is a textbook definition of an echo.
Would be delightful if you could point out what these suspect actions might be. ^.^
IDC if you don't have any scumreads; it's still early, but you're not remotely trying to scumhunt––not even by RVSing. What's up with that?
Scum have a scumchat. Trying to figure out what a new scum player is "smart enough" to do is incredibly WIFOMy, because they might––or might not––be coached by their scumbuddies.
Also, thoughts on the TSM thing:
I don't have an opinion either way yet, and that's dangerous. The case on him is built entirely off his inactivity––so we get next to no information from his lynch if it goes through. I don't read his inactivity as a scumtell––it's just a thing he does, albeit a really annoying thing. Scum would love nothing more rn than for us to lynch a townie whose flip gives us no information about anyone.
Jabberwock abstained.
Yeah there's nothing I can say about that; I just wasn't able to get on again to cast a vote like I thought I would.
@Mariano11887 I would suggest placing your vote sooner rather than later. I suspect that's why so many people (me included) abstained from voting in the trial––they thought, "ohhey there are 24 hours ofc I'll have more time" and then something came up and they weren't able to get back.
Most people abstained on the first trial of Day 1, does that make them "classic scum"?This is classic scum not wanting to give information about himself. Mariano did vote guilty, and that makes me think jabber and him are scum buddies even more. This s because mariano is new to the game, and it can be shrugged of by his newbieness and town cred he built up that day, which he later did, by saying: “Ok, that clearly surprised me. I might be a beginner, but i would like to know what happened?
QUOTE="Jabberwock, post: 2910009, member: 107419"]##VOTE: FLAVORFULPINEAPL
What past experiences might those be? Don't think I've seen you 'round these parts. ^.^
You are the Mayor and are aligned with the Town. You’re the leader of the town, and once you reveal your identity you will be trusted completely.
Passive Ability - Mayor’s Power: LOCKED
Active Ability - Reveal: One night during the game (starting N0), you may PM me ‘Reveal’. In the daybreak update that morning, it will be revealed that you are the Mayor. However, it comes at a price. Upon revealing, the doctor will be unable to heal you.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats to the Town.
You are the Sheriff and are aligned with the Town. You’re a stealthy sheriff who was forced into hiding by the Mafia, and is looking to find them out.
Active Ability - Interrogating: Every night you may PM me ‘Interrogate [PLAYER]’. You will learn if they are involved in any suspicious activity.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats to the Town.
Interrogating
Jade
Your target is not suspicious.
Interrogating
quakingpunch73
Your target is not suspicious.
You have been poisoned! You will die tomorrow unless you are cured!