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Masters: CaKe(Cobalion, Kyurem, and Electrode)

KatsuSado

KatsuSado

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3 Cobalion(NV 84)
3 Kyurem
3-2 Electrode prime
2 Shaymin
1 Cleffa
1 Unown(TM)

Pokemon: 15

Pokemon Collector: 4
Junk Arm: 4
Research Record: 4
Twins: 3
PONT: 3
Eviolite: 3
Pokemon Catcher: 3
Professor Juniper: 2
Pokemon Communication: 2
Seeker: 1
FSL: 1
N: 1

T/S/S: 31

{W}: 5
{M}: 5
sp{M}: 4

Energy: 14

Strategy:
Your basic Cake strategy set up a cobalion and kyurem for attack lock and spread damage with electrode prime for energy acceleration for T2 Iron Breaker and Glaciate. In this deck I use twins with energy mite to get the exact cards i need to for a great set up and to help transition from setting up to going on the offensive. Unown from Triumphant is in the deck because in my area this is a good number of mew box decks that run vanilluxe in the lists so using unown's ability helps greatly against double freeze.
 
You could try teching in a PDL for annoying card that just don't want to be beaten or to use Time Control to stall out a bit longer, just an option I considered as I've just began to look into CaKE.
 
true or you even get rid of the vileplume lock along with a magnazone good suggestion
 
Yeah I figure it could help with situations like that and I doubt any opponents would be expecting that.
 
Brendan said:
You could try teching in a PDL for annoying card that just don't want to be beaten or to use Time Control to stall out a bit longer, just an option I considered as I've just began to look into CaKE.
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I'm against it. If you think about it, you really are giving your opponent just one prize card, considering you have to go boom just to quickly charge up PDL (and from there, you can only use Time Control every other turn). Plus, PDL is worth two prize cards and you risk discarding it from Electrode.
 
I have two copies of PDL in my binder, and after I logged off of here last night i got to looking at the card. A three energy retreat cost definitely killed the idea for me. Sure I can add prizes to my opponent's prize count but then there goes TWO energy i can't back unless i have FSL in hand. Plus that also gives up the ability to retreat if need be, and leaves PDL as catcher bait. Don't get me wrong i love PDL i think it could be great in the right deck and format that has more than 4 ways of accelerating energy
 
Oh yeah, the fact PDL has a three energy retreat cost is just horrendous. Anyways, as far as the actual cards in the deck goes iam thinking of scratching the N for another cobalion. Any thoughts???
 
To be honest I'm against shaymin in any deck other than the following exceptions: 6C, ZPS and variants, Gothitelle.

Reason being is that while it is a great card, CaKE/CoKE what ever you want to call it, has too little room to give up for something you dont really need. Since you should have a (slightly) higher Energy count in it than most decks, Electrode will rarely (if ever) discard more than 2-4 non-Energy cards. Those 2 slots could be devoted to Bouffalant (Revenge KOs become a possibly), or another couple of energy. This is just my two cents after having played CKE since we got Kyurem.

On the topic of PDL, I doubt that it will be able to see play in anything unless its got a 4-4 Electrode Prime which, even then, is asking for an auto loss.
 
@Azurial- hmm interesting point plus if took out shaymin i could possibly take out the seeker making room for another card?
 
I personally like Terrakion (NV) in CaKe :D but that means you would also need room for Rainbows, and a switch or two (so your terrakion dosen't get stuck)
But if you take out the shaymins, maybe take out 1 water and 1 basic metal for 2 rainbows (remember if you attach via electrode you avoid 1dmg counter)
 
as a matter of fact you do avoid the ten damage. The T/S/S cards and shaymin from this deck are actually from the Scizor deck i posted on here awhile back.
 
I agree with Kingdra_Fan 100% terrakion is awesome you should probably take out shay for 2 of them

thinking about the long terms here the next tourney is going to be states after the relese of the EX cards in of itself cake can do fine (attack lock is just awesome :D) but still something else to worry about is magnezone which is already arguably the BDIF and he's going to get more popular with the EX cards because he can OHKO them for two prizes

however terrakion can OHKO him back as well as zekrom or any other card that might be in the deck and megazone isn't popular anymore soo I'd run terrakion :D
 
Don't take out shaymin, they are very important to keep energy in play and take full potential of all of the enrgies yout got for blow'in up electrode. I'd take out a Research Record and a Unown. Already playing Cobalion for Vanilluxe, so yeah, you don't need it.
 
CaKe is all about energy efficiency, and Shaymin is a great example of that. Magnezone is the only popular card that can OHKO both Kyurem and Cobalion, so in every non-Magnezone matchup, Shaymin can help you save at least 3 energy. IMO, it's a must in CaKe.
Of course, Magnezone is the most popular deck at the moment, and possibly BDIF, so I think exactly 1 'min is optimal.
 
Slayer said:
Don't take out shaymin, they are very important to keep energy in play and take full potential of all of the enrgies yout got for blow'in up electrode. I'd take out a Research Record and a Unown. Already playing Cobalion for Vanilluxe, so yeah, you don't need it.
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(actually cobalion doesn't counter mew which is what he's talking about.....)

also granted shaymin is very helpful (ZPST is but one example of many) but if you can already attach as many energy as you like to any of your pokemon it's only needed to save those energy from the discard pile which is what super rod and FSL are for. In addition shay is catcher bait so you have to be careful when placing it (also if they can plus power for 130 on kyurem or coba before you play shay the card becomes even more useless)

the bottom line is imo shay is really good and could work in this deck but terrakion is just better....
 
tested the deck with Terakkion and Shaymin tonight both work well but shaymin works so much better in the list. Plus it gives alot more breathing room if i have a bad start one retreat cost is better than four. Plus in the Magnazone matchup I'd rather have to either toss two cards for a switch OR trash three energy to retreat. So settling for 60 damage and just having them pass for two/three turns is imo alot better than waiting for a revenge kill. Plus if they keep swaping up their magnazones i just come back later with kyurem and knock out multiple magnazones in the late game for easy prizes.
 
Seriously, you should have both Terrakion and Shaymin in your deck. Against Magnezone Terrakion will help you a lot, trust me, and without Terrakion the matchup is unfavorable. Also even if you decide to not run Terrakion, you should have 4 Rainbows in your deck. My minimum Energy Count for CaKE is 16 energys.
 
KatsuSado said:
3 Cobalion(NV 84)
3 Kyurem
3-2 Electrode prime
2 Shaymin
1 Cleffa
1 Unown(TM)

Pokemon: 15

Pokemon Collector: 4
Junk Arm: 4
Research Record: 4
Twins: 3
PONT: 3
Eviolite: 3
Pokemon Catcher: 3
Professor Juniper: 2
Pokemon Communication: 2
Seeker: 1
FSL: 1
N: 1

T/S/S: 31

{W}: 5
{M}: 5
sp{M}: 4

Energy: 14

Strategy:
Your basic Cake strategy set up a cobalion and kyurem for attack lock and spread damage with electrode prime for energy acceleration for T2 Iron Breaker and Glaciate. In this deck I use twins with energy mite to get the exact cards i need to for a great set up and to help transition from setting up to going on the offensive. Unown from Triumphant is in the deck because in my area this is a good number of mew box decks that run vanilluxe in the lists so using unown's ability helps greatly against double freeze.
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Try and test this out:

-1 {W}
-1 {M}
-2 Research Record
-1 PONT

+4 Rainbow Energy
+1 Professor Juniper

I run a heavier Juniper line and less PONT for the sake of speed, plus lessening the chance of redrawing that bad hand you wanted to get rid of. With all the draw power in the deck, you don't really need to have 4 Research Record. You won't have too much difficulty getting it into your hand (either by your draw cards or Twins). You would have a higher energy count, which should give you better odds of hitting when your Electrode explodes.
 
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