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antidakoda

antidakoda

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I am a blank slate. I came from Magic the Gathering.

So here are some facts:

I love combo-ing decks.
I love anti-meta decks.
I don't want to play something that forces me into playing something (ie, playing a dark deck GOTTA PLAY DARKRAI!)
I don't want to spend 300$ on a deck. Magic sucked because of this.

Kay, so, that being said, I want to learn. I want to have fun. I want to win. Teach me everything you know. I know I don't have anything to offer you in return, but if I could I'd give you a cookie! =D

Also, the reason I left MTG is because 1. I hate elitist attitudes, and 2. I hate paying stupid amounts of money for cards (IM LOOKIN AT YOU JACE THE MINDSCULPTOR!).

cheers!
 
Well, for starters, welcome to PokeBéach and the Pokémon community!

I'll get straight to the point about pricing. Decks these days tend to cost around 150$, if you're starting from scratch. If you do a little work and find stuff for the cheapest possible, you'll probably get a fully functioning deck for about 100$-150$. The major expenses in there are 4 Pokemon Catcher, which every single deck HAS to run to be viable at all, which is probably about 15 apiece, and the main attackers which range from 5$ (promo EX's) to 30$ (Stuff like Landorus EX).

Before I launch into what decks you might like based on what guidelines you've laid out, how much do you currently know about the Pokemon TCG? Do you know the basics of how to play?

I'll PM you later with a whole bunch of stuff you should go through to get started, but it would be good to know what current knowledge you have. Once again, welcome!
 
There really isn't 1 big anit-meta deck in this format. In order for you to find out what your anit meta is, find out what all of the local players at your league are playing, and build a deck based on that. For example if they are all playing landorus EX decks, you could play keldeo/blastoise, or if people are all playing darkrai/hydriegon, you could play darkrai/landorus.
 
QWERTY DITTO said:
There really isn't 1 big anit-meta deck in this format. In order for you to find out what your anit meta is, find out what all of the local players at your league are playing, and build a deck based on that. For example if they are all playing landorus EX decks, you could play keldeo/blastoise, or if people are all playing darkrai/hydriegon, you could play darkrai/landorus.
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Are there silly decks that just don't follow any of that stuff at all that are possible? Like today in my first tourney i beat Dark/Hydre and a weird Zoroark deck with Empelion/Blastoise.
 
Yes there are all sorts of "fun decks" like Raticate/Amoonguss or Sableye/Aggron. But they tend to be harder to set up.However, that deck(Raticate/Amoonguss) 1HKOs everything no exceptions when it sets up.
 
Cooltrainer Alan said:
Yes there are all sorts of "fun decks" like Raticate/Amoonguss or Sableye/Aggron. But they tend to be harder to set up.However, that deck(Raticate/Amoonguss) 1HKOs everything no exceptions when it sets up.
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With Raticate Amoonguss its not really setting up, its keeping up. You have a finite amount of turns in which you can use Amoonguss and get the OHKO, and Raticate has such pathetic hp that your opponent should be OHKOing you as well.

They're possible but in a highly competitive format like a big tournament you'd need to be incredibly lucky to win. Its only natural that a deck with a dedicated strategy will work better than one without, but unfortunately luck does play a large part in determining games in this current format.
 
Is it possible to do an "ex-hate" deck, in response to all these darkrai/mewtwo/keldeo decks? I was thinking garbador/gothilette and scizor type things.
 
You can, but really its been tried and it doesn't work all too well. First of all Garbodor locks down Gothitelle's ability so that doesn't work, and even if they didn't the deck would be very slow and, without a strong attack, EXes would just win the prize trade and consistency wars. Scizor is just a really bad card in general, 40 damage per turn is not doing to win you anything vs a non-EX and the opponent can just catcher around Scizor to hit with their EXes, and, since he's doing so little damage, there's not a lot you can do about it with him. Honestly the format right now doesn't have a ton of room for creativity at the top; its basically the strongest EXes plus tons of staple trainers and a single stage 1-2 line that supports them in some decks. Some forego the stage 1s and 2s entirely and basically become "use an attack that does more damage than the opponent and/or more often than the opponent".
 
Dark Void said:
You can, but really its been tried and it doesn't work all too well. First of all Garbodor locks down Gothitelle's ability so that doesn't work, and even if they didn't the deck would be very slow and, without a strong attack, EXes would just win the prize trade and consistency wards. Scizor is just a really bad card in general, 40 damage per turn is not doing to win you anything vs a non-EX and the opponent can just catcher around Scizor to hit with their EXes, and, since he's doing so little damage, there's not a lot you can do about it with him. Honestly the format right now doesn't have a ton of room for creativity at the top; its basically the strongest EXes plus tons of staple trainers and a single stage 1-2 line that supports them in some decks. Some forego the stage 1s and 2s entirely and basically become "use an attack that does more damage than the opponent and/or more often than the opponent".
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^ All of that.

The only EX hate that really exists is Sigilpyh, and it doesn't work too well. It's a nice tech in stuff like Ho-oh and Darkrai/Hydregon (sometimes), but besides that, it's all about being faster than your opponent.
 
antidakoda said:
So...blastoise and keldeo pretty much seems like the only super combo deck.
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*shakes head*

Darkrai/Hydreigon, Ho-oh, and many of the other Darkrai decks have some pretty awesome combos you can pull off via the use of Energy Switch (not in Hydreigon obviously), and Dark Patch (not in Ho-oh).

If you're looking for a deck that uses evolutions, use Darkrai/Hydreigon, and if you're looking for a deck that can pull off massive combos and uses only Basics, use Ho-oh or something like Darkrai/Landorus.

As I mentioned in a profile comment, I think you might really like Ho-oh based on the guidelines you've set out. It may not be the best deck out there, but the combos it can pull off are unmatched and it's very customizable to personal playing styles. You also don't have to use Darkrai in it, as you mentioned you didn't want to.

EDIT: Also Eelektrik. That has some pretty crazy combos too, although Landorus EX kinda puts a dent in it.
 
antidakoda said:
Yeah. I have 2 of that one. and like 3 different tynamo's.
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You need three to four to make a deck, but they're only around 3 dollars each. If you decide you want to play Eels (that's the nickname for it), you gotta choose between the Rayquaza EX variant and the Mewtwo varient. After that, I'll be glad to help you build a list for it.
 
antidakoda said:
I already have a fullart rayquaza EX. how many of those do i need?
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Around 2-3. They're out in a promo form so they're pretty inexpensive. The stuff that's expensive for it are the staples and Raikou EX.
 
Actually 1 is perfect. Especially if you are playing Eelektrik with Rayquaza. But if you decide to play Mewtwo with Rayquaza you might want to consider getting 2. Also, I would recommend Ho-oH if you wanted to do a fun deck. I would recommend playing Regigigas EX (Next Destinies) with Aspertia City Gym (Boundaries Crossed) and Eviolite (Noble Victories) very powerful combo and VERY fun deck. And on a final but important note, getting your hands on 4 Pokemon Catcher is a must for any deck you are playing. Hope this helped, feel free to PM me if you need any help or a good skeleton :)
 
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