Discussion "Obsidian Flames" Partial Set List

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Character rares in French? had been leaked for Obsidian Flames, meaning about bloody time for the partial setlist.

  1. Oddish
  2. Gloom
  3. Bellossom
  4. Scyther
  5. Shuckle
  6. Surskit
  7. Masquerain
  8. Combee
  9. Foongus
  10. Amoonguss
  11. Phanthump
  12. Trevenant
  13. Rowlet
  14. Dartrix
  15. Decidueye ex
  16. Bounsweet
  17. Steenee
  18. Tsareena
  19. Smoliv
  20. Dolliv
  21. Arboliva
  22. Toedscruel ex
  23. Capsakid
  24. Capsakid
  25. Scovillain
  26. Charmander
  27. Charmeleon
  28. Vulpix
  29. Ninetales
  30. Entei
  31. Numel
  32. Camerupt
  33. Victini ex
  34. Darumaka
  35. Darmanitan
  36. Heatmor
  37. Litwick
  38. Lampent
  39. Chandelure
  40. Larvesta
  41. Volcarona
  42. Eiscue ex (Fire)
  43. Charcardet
  44. Armorouge
  45. Lapras
  46. Carvanha
  47. Sharpedo
  48. Buizel
  49. Floatzel
  50. Tympole
  51. Palpitoad
  52. Seismitoad
  53. Cubchoo
  54. Beartic
  55. Cryogonal
  56. Froakie
  57. Frogadier
  58. Wiglett
  59. Wugrtio
  60. Finizen
  61. Finizen
  62. Palafin
  63. Magnemite
  64. Magneton
  65. Magnezone
  66. Tyranitar ex (Electric)
  67. Tynamo
  68. Eelektrik
  69. Eelektross
  70. Thundurus
  71. Toxel
  72. Toxtricity
  73. Pawmot ex
  74. Tadbulb
  75. Tadbulb
  76. Tadbulb
  77. Bellibolt
  78. Bellibolt
  79. Miraidon ex
  80. Cleffa
  81. Clefairy
  82. Clefable ex
  83. Togepi
  84. Togetic
  85. Togekiss
  86. Espeon
  87. Snubbull
  88. Granbull
  89. Mawile
  90. Spoink
  91. Grumpig
  92. Lunatone
  93. Solrock
  94. Baltoy
  95. Claydol
  96. Vespiquen ex (Ghost)?
  97. Sinistea
  98. Polteageist
  99. Greavard
  100. Greavard
  101. Houndstone
  102. Houndstone ex
  103. Diglett
  104. Dugtrio
  105. Larvitar
  106. Pupitar
  107. Nosepass
  108. Barboach
  109. Whiscash
  110. Bonsly
  111. Drillbur
  112. Stunfisk
  113. Diggersby
  114. Crabrawler
  115. Crabominable
  116. Rockruff
  117. Lycanroc
  118. Toedscool
  119. Toedscruel
  120. Klawf ex
  121. Glimmet
  122. Glimmet
  123. Glimmora ex
  124. Koraidon ex
  125. Charizard ex (Dark)
  126. Paldean Wooper
  127. Paldean Wooper
  128. Paldean Clodsire
  129. Paldean Clodsire
  130. Umbreon
  131. Houndour
  132. Houndour
  133. Houndoom
  134. Houndoom ex
  135. Absol ex
  136. Darkrai
  137. Inkay
  138. Malamar
  139. Salandit
  140. Salazzle
  141. Scizor
  142. Skarmory
  143. Mawile
  144. Bronzor
  145. Bronzong
  146. Probopass
  147. Excadrill
  148. Pawniard
  149. Bisharp
  150. Kingambit
  151. Togedemaru
  152. Meltan
  153. Melmetal ex
  154. Varoom
  155. Varoom
  156. Revavroom ex
  157. Dratini
  158. Dragonair
  159. Dragonite ex (Dragon)
  160. Altaria
  161. Drampa
  162. Pidgey
  163. Pidgeotto
  164. Pidgeot ex
  165. Kangaskhan
  166. Eevee
  167. Zigzagoon
  168. Linoone
  169. Swablu
  170. Lillipup
  171. Herdier
  172. Stoutland
  173. Audino
  174. Bouffalant
  175. Yungoos
  176. Gumshoos
  177. Bunnelby
  178. Skwovet
  179. Greedent ex (Normal)
  180. Lechonk
  181. Lechonk
  182. Lechonk
  183. Oinkologne
  184. Oinkologne
  185. Flamigo
  186. Arven
  187. Brassius
  188. Geeta
  189. Letter of Encouragement
  190. Ortega
  191. Patrol Cap
  192. Pokemon League HQ
  193. Poppy
  194. Ryme
  195. Team Star Grunt
  196. Town Store
  197. Vengeful Punch
  198. Gloom
  199. Ninetales
  200. Palafin
  201. Bellibolt
  202. Cleffa
  203. Larvitar
  204. Houndour
  205. Scizor
  206. Varoom
  207. Pidgey
  208. Pidgeotto
  209. Lechonk
  210. Eiscue ex (Fire)
  211. Tyranitar ex (Electric)
  212. Vespiquen ex (Ghost)?
  213. Glimmora ex
  214. Charizard ex (Dark)
  215. Absol ex
  216. Revavroom ex
  217. Pidgeot ex
  218. Geeta
  219. Ortega
  220. Poppy
  221. Ryme
  222. Eiscue ex (Fire) *
  223. Charizard ex (Dark) *
  224. Revaroom ex *
  225. Pidgeot ex *
  226. Geeta *
  227. Poppy *
  228. Charizard ex (Dark)
  229. Artazon
  230. Basic [R] Energy
 
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Actually, it wasn't Braysh but a Discord user named, Kieg. I have discord but Discord ain't like Twitter or Facebook so I don't see who am I crediting first
 
Kangaflora said:
If Cleffa is in this set, then hopefully they will bring out Trainer Cards that will permit the Baby Pokémon to evolve. Hopefully, We will see the other 15 Baby Pokémon as well as Cleffa.
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Either that, or add an ability that allows it to evolve into Clefairy. The last thing I want is to see an errata making Clefairy a stage 1 that evolves from Cleffa instead of a basic, as that nerfs the moon watching party Clefairy deck...
 
cardgjammer said:
Either that, or add an ability that allows it to evolve into Clefairy. The last thing I want is to see an errata making Clefairy a stage 1 that evolves from Cleffa instead of a basic, as that nerfs the moon watching party Clefairy deck...
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Now that I actually wouldn't mind as that would technically match the Evolution stage correction that they got when their pre evolved forms were released.
 
There was a leeked Tera Dark Charizard ex Gold and Dragonite ex recently. But not sure abt the numbering since they're blurry af
 
That Charizard going around is 228/197, which is very odd since it's a Hyper Rare. The leaked Illustration Rare Lechonk card is 209/197, which would mean there is space for only 19 Ultra Rares and Special Illustration Rares

Scarlet & Violet's first Hyper Rare is 253/198, and the last known card from Paldea Evolved so far is 270/193 (Saguaro), which is a Special Illustration Rare.
 
Bruno Costa said:
That Charizard going around is 228/197, which is very odd since it's a Hyper Rare. The leaked Illustration Rare Lechonk card is 209/197, which would mean there is space for only 19 Ultra Rares and Special Illustration Rares

Scarlet & Violet's first Hyper Rare is 253/198, and the last known card from Paldea Evolved so far is 270/193 (Saguaro), which is a Special Illustration Rare.
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It is because PAL consists of 3 Japanese sets, which also consists of 36 total Illustration Rares. Since OBF will consists SV3, leftover cards from PAL, and ex decks, that makes Illustration Rares to become 12. Hence the numbering of that Charizard seems so weird
 
The breakdown will either be:
8 FA Pokemon, 4 FA Supporters, 4 SAR Pokemon, 2 SAR Supporters
or
6 FA Pokemon, 4 FA Supporters, 4 SAR Pokemon, 4 SAR Supporters
 
I wonder if they will make Pokémon Tool cards that will allow for Baby Pokémon to evolve, like Baby Evolution Cleffa to allow Cleffa to evolve into Clefairy in this scenario.
 
Here's my prediction based on all available information and leaks:

The 15 ex + 6 tera ex are:
8 ex + 2 tera ex from decks (latter 2 being Dragon Dragonite and Colorless Greedent as the 2 secret decks with tera being the secret)
4 ex are Klawf, Toedscruel, Pawmot and Houndstone from Gym Promos and the special ex set
3 ex + 4 tera ex are from Ruler of the Black Flame (Revavroom + Charizard/Tyra/Eiscue/Vespiquen) with 1 ex being cut for an ex box

Charmander will be a tournament promo like Miraidon/Koraidon since there are all 12 AR here. (12 per JP set and this is 1 set only)

12 full arts are 8 Pokemon 4 Supporters
6 SAR will be all 4 normal ex in the set + 2 Supporters; fits with normal JP set ratios

We know Zard is the gold ex & I think any SAR tera ex will be in the Shiny Treasure special set if at all.

Also guessing Dark Energy gold since Zard Dark is the mascot.

The ratio of JP double sets is 6 ex 3 sar and 4 fa 2 sar for Pokemon/Supporters though Clay Burst/Snow Hazard only gave us 2 supporters with both getting Sar.

Brilliant Stars/Lost Origin/Silver Tempest JP equivalents had 8 V, 4 "AA" so that's why I think it's back to 8 ex and then 4 supporters for this Ruler of the Black Flame/Obsidian Flames set.
 
This list needs to be updated with the Pokémon that were recently cut from Paldea Evolved, but also with cards from the ex Starter Decks and the recently revealed cards for the Black Flame set, including cards I have mentioned in Post 14 of this thread.

EDIT: The Clefable in THIS set is a Clefable ex, as correctly pointed out by the ex Starter Decks.
 
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Kangaflora said:
This list needs to be updated with the Pokémon that were recently cut from Paldea Evolved, but also with cards from the ex Starter Decks and the recently revealed cards for the Black Flame set, including cards I have mentioned in Post 14 of this thread.

EDIT: The Clefable in THIS set is a Clefable ex, as correctly pointed out by the ex Starter Decks.
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