RSE/FRLG Overheat VS Fire Blast
- Thread starter Tortonic
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...how about a move that isn't Fire-type, such as Earthquake? I mean it's usually okay for in-game purposes, but at the same time, you want to keep your options open.
I'd say neither, and look for something else. (And if you wanted to teach him Overheat, you'd need to erase Flamethrower anyway for the best results.)
I'd say neither, and look for something else. (And if you wanted to teach him Overheat, you'd need to erase Flamethrower anyway for the best results.)
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ShinyHunter9634
Honestly if it came down to the basics, Overheat is stronger, higher accuracy, the only problem is the lowering of Sp. Atk. But Fire Blast has a 10% chance to burn, so i think it really comes down to this
Raw power = Overheat
Less pwr/status ailments = Fireblast
Raw power = Overheat
Less pwr/status ailments = Fireblast
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Juliacoolo
Get rid of Overheat for Flare Blitz when he learns it. He'll have better sweeping capabilities.
@JC:
Honestly, I'd just keep Flamethrower over both of these moves. I hate the accuracy of Fire Blast and I hate the SpAtk drop on Overheat even more. I dunno why, I just have bad luck with both of the moves in competitive battling, so I just always use Flamethrower. I do the same thing with Thunderbolt over Thunder and Surf/Scald over Hydro Pump. But if I had to choose, I'd go with Fire Blast.
Tortonic said:
Honestly, I'd just keep Flamethrower over both of these moves. I hate the accuracy of Fire Blast and I hate the SpAtk drop on Overheat even more. I dunno why, I just have bad luck with both of the moves in competitive battling, so I just always use Flamethrower. I do the same thing with Thunderbolt over Thunder and Surf/Scald over Hydro Pump. But if I had to choose, I'd go with Fire Blast.
There's still plenty to do after the League, so still enough time to learn him Extremespeed. Also Overheat is basically useless, it's like Hyper Beam, only usefull to finish a battle. After using Overheat once your Sp.Attack will be halved, so a second Overheat or any other Sp.Attack for that matter will become painfully weak. I'd still go for Fire Blast if you really want a choice between these two.
Depends on which stat is the Highest. If your ATTACK is high I would use an attack with a high power like EQ as the previous member suggested. If your SP ATK is high I would go with Fire Blast because it does not lower your stats during battle. Overheat is a good move but every time it is used the next attack is always weaker than the previous one. I forget if the power is weakened or if your SP ATK gets dropped but either way it gets weaker or makes you weaker. Remember I can't remember which way it goes. I would pick Fire Blast because you don't loose anything on every attack but it does miss though. It mainly depends on how high your ATTACK is and your SP ATK is though. If your SP ATK is too low either attack will not be that effective and I would choose an attack move. ATTACK moves are the ones with the spark in the box The SP ATK ones are the ones with the circle eye thingy in the box. That way you can tell them apart. Some of those attacks also say SPECIAL and that is also by SP ATK XD.
DNA said:
Yeah see I knew either way the Pokemon suffered. He's got a point there. This is a SP ATK move so I would do Fire Blast but I can't remember if that is SP ATK or ATTACK because I don't use either move myself but I can check quickly and let you know XD.
EDIT: I just checked and Fire Blast is also Special. However even though your SP ATK will be lower Fire Blast will be the better choice because it does not affect your SP ATK. With Overheat you are looking at 2 levels of recoil off your SP ATK every turn and after 3 turns of using it your SP ATK will be so low that your other Fire moves will not be that effective. However Overheat is good if you are going to make the hit count. Say you use a move that is a SP ATK move first that is not Overheat then follow up with Overheat. You can do it that way. You can either attack once or twice. Pick your move. If you pick over heat you will have to attack at least twice if you want to make overheat count. If you pick Fire last then you only need to attack once and make it count XD. If it was me doing the Picking I would pick Fire Blast. That is my opinion however XD.
I voted Overheat just because it's cooler to me.
From a competitive standpoint though, I personally would go with Flamethrower. But Fire Blast > Overheat.
From a competitive standpoint though, I personally would go with Flamethrower. But Fire Blast > Overheat.
Overheat isn't very good in game, but competitively it can be used very well in many cases. Hit and run Choice Specs Pokemon benefit from the extra power and accuracy, but you don't see this in the third generation obviously. In addition, physically based mixed attackers can include Overheat to eliminate a specific wall and then sweep.
The only problem is that it lowers the SP ATK 2 levels ever time though which also drops it for the other moves that run on SP ATK too. The only way that it would work effectively is if the SP ATK is maxed or almost maxed out. The slightly more accuracy will not make much of a difference unless you have a move such as protect or reflect to absorb a move that is supper effective then attack with one of the other moves. Overheat is sort of a last resort move. Which means you don't want to use it unless it is necessary as with Fire Blast you can use it when you want without lowering your other attacks. You could try the eany meany miny mo thing to pick the move. After you are done doing that then do and you are it at the end of doing that to make the absolute final decision. If your SP ATK is super low you might get a good hit the first time though but the other 4-7 times will hurt you badly XD.