I feel like a side board in Pokemon would be a good thing for the game. I know it is in magic not sure if there are side boards to Yugio or other card games. For Pokemon it could even be a 10 card side board and only be used in best of three or best of 5 formats. I feel like side boarding would make the game so much more competitve and more strategic as well, a side board would also allow more flexibilty to deck building. I am sure I am not the only person who always seems to find more than 60 cards that I want to put into a deck. What do you guys think about Sideboarding, and do you think Pokemon will ever adopt sideboards?
P!P/Rules Pokemon Side Boards
- Thread starter Ironman131
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I wish I could say yes, but I really don't see how it'd work. The thing with Yugioh is that you can easily remove a few filler cards and you'll still be well off. With Pokemon, every card is so... calculated and there's no real way to use a hybrid deck, it'd end up making decks really complicated or really simple and both ways aren't what Pokemon is about right now.
If it was put into effect, it'd also involve messing with Energy/Pokemon/Supporter lines, and that's something that I don't think anyone would want to mess with after they've built the deck unless they're editing it.
If it was put into effect, it'd also involve messing with Energy/Pokemon/Supporter lines, and that's something that I don't think anyone would want to mess with after they've built the deck unless they're editing it.
Eh, there are plenty of times that I've said, "Oh, I would really like to remove THIS card to substitute this in for THIS card, but the second card only works well in some matchups, while the first card works better in more matchups."
Actually i think it would be a nice addition. Though it probably won't happen. My VirGen deck has to sit with a 2-2 line of Abomasnow just for fire decks. If i could have that 2-2 line in a side deck then it would allow the deck itself to run more consistently. Even i its like 5-10 cards in the side deck it would help greatly. I could put in a few Enhanced Hammers, a good tech pokemon for a weakness, a couple of different stadiums, ect. It could in theory make it possible for there to be a more complex meta if you could easily splash in the weakness of the most popular decks that can change a certain loss to a possible victory.
I think the reason decks are so tight and calculated is because the fact that you have to deal with so may top tier decks. If you had like 5 cards as wiggle room. It could potentially make the deck itself more versatile.
Example: A straight Ex deck that doesn't have to run any non ex attackers in the main deck. So when you are matched up against a safeguard deck, you can just splash in those non ex attackers from the side deck and then the match becomes winnable.
I think the reason decks are so tight and calculated is because the fact that you have to deal with so may top tier decks. If you had like 5 cards as wiggle room. It could potentially make the deck itself more versatile.
Example: A straight Ex deck that doesn't have to run any non ex attackers in the main deck. So when you are matched up against a safeguard deck, you can just splash in those non ex attackers from the side deck and then the match becomes winnable.
It would be nice in a deck that is very adaptive or involves multi-types. Usually a 15 card side board works and would make the game pretty interesting. I've wanted a side board for a while honestly.
I'd rather they worked on getting the core gameplay balanced out because Side Boards are usually a good sign something is out of whack.
I'm not a Magic: the Gathering player. I know the basics (I mean the minimum basics) of that game. I played Yu-Gi-Oh from the release of the first two Starter Decks until about 2009. Side Decks were a way to punish creativity and diversity while rewarding even more homogeneous deck building. You had to find the "sweet spot" where your deck was good enough to win but not good enough to Side anything against it... and even then someone might anyway just because they lacked something better to use for their Side Deck, or because your deck happened to be more effective against them than other decks.
Side Decks just are not the answer. I mean what do you want to counter with a Side Board? Alright... now what do you think that deck ends up doing with its side board? It is like we want to make the game monotoad.
I'm not a Magic: the Gathering player. I know the basics (I mean the minimum basics) of that game. I played Yu-Gi-Oh from the release of the first two Starter Decks until about 2009. Side Decks were a way to punish creativity and diversity while rewarding even more homogeneous deck building. You had to find the "sweet spot" where your deck was good enough to win but not good enough to Side anything against it... and even then someone might anyway just because they lacked something better to use for their Side Deck, or because your deck happened to be more effective against them than other decks.
Side Decks just are not the answer. I mean what do you want to counter with a Side Board? Alright... now what do you think that deck ends up doing with its side board? It is like we want to make the game monotoad.
A side deck could be very meta, but the Pokemon TCG doesn't require it. No side deck means a greater decision on if your tech is hard and great for 1 or 2 matchups/Pokemon, or softer but viable in a lot more situations.
If they had a side deck I think it would need to be right around 5 cards, enough to switch out some cards but not enough to allow a player to deviate from the core of the deck. Side deck will be for top cut only. The first game of the match must be with the original 60 card deck. Games 2 and 3 can contain any 60 cards of the 65.
If they had a side deck I think it would need to be right around 5 cards, enough to switch out some cards but not enough to allow a player to deviate from the core of the deck. Side deck will be for top cut only. The first game of the match must be with the original 60 card deck. Games 2 and 3 can contain any 60 cards of the 65.
Again I think the side board for Pokémon is a bad idea, but my arguments are less problematic the smaller said sideboard becomes. Five cards means we are unlikely to have "two-in-one" decks where the sideboard is basically used to change the deck from Deck A to Deck B and it makes it unlikely the Top Decks will get hammered by four copies of the perfect counter. A single strong deck might, but you won't have room to counter (for example) the Colorless M Rayquaza-EX deck as well as Seismitoad-EX variants... or at least not thoroughly.