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'Primal Clash' Set Description [10/23]
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I'm glad to see M. Gardevoir EX should be fairy type. Not that I wouldn't mind a psychic one down the line. I just hope we get the regular fairy Gardevoir line as well...to go with the Azumarill fairy line we already know will be there.
I wish we knew when they were releasing the starters as megas though, in many ways I'm suprised it's not this set though I know they didn't release the Kanto megas at the same time either, though those were done back to back.
On a side note, with so many megas being released with no guarantee that we won't wind up with more before ORAS's release and Z/X2/Y2 (whatev) it seems like we'll never all the megas released for the game at this rate. We currently have 35 unreleased ones (I don't count M. Diancie since we'll get that in January and M, Metagross since we get a shiny one in November nor am I counting the two in Phantom Forces or the two we expect in Primal Clash). That make about seventeen sets over four years without any new ones coming out. I know Nintendo may not be concerned with getting them all out before the next generation but when you factor in that the next generation is most likely to have new megas as well at this rate we'll never have them all in any card form...let alone any with double types.
So assuming that the primals and and megas count as part of the 12 ex line up we have:
Kyogre EX-Primal Kyogre EX
Groudon EX-Primal Groudon EX
Gardevoir EX-M. Gardevoir EX
Aggron EX-M. Aggron EX
The other four...based on the set description "Gaia Volcano will focus on Fire, Fighting, and Steel-type Pokemon while Tidal Storm will focus on Water, Darkness, and Fairy-type Pokemon." I speculate one will be a water type and one will be a fire type. The question is will they follow the current trend of EX's for this set only being gen 3 Pokemon? If so, then our best bet for fire will be Torkoal EX (since Camerupt would need a Mega to go with the EX, as would Blaziken. Water has a few more option available to it. And if they don't stick to that current trend...well it's anyones guess. I think the third might be a dragon type and the fourth electric, though those are completley random guesses.
I wish we knew when they were releasing the starters as megas though, in many ways I'm suprised it's not this set though I know they didn't release the Kanto megas at the same time either, though those were done back to back.
On a side note, with so many megas being released with no guarantee that we won't wind up with more before ORAS's release and Z/X2/Y2 (whatev) it seems like we'll never all the megas released for the game at this rate. We currently have 35 unreleased ones (I don't count M. Diancie since we'll get that in January and M, Metagross since we get a shiny one in November nor am I counting the two in Phantom Forces or the two we expect in Primal Clash). That make about seventeen sets over four years without any new ones coming out. I know Nintendo may not be concerned with getting them all out before the next generation but when you factor in that the next generation is most likely to have new megas as well at this rate we'll never have them all in any card form...let alone any with double types.
So assuming that the primals and and megas count as part of the 12 ex line up we have:
Kyogre EX-Primal Kyogre EX
Groudon EX-Primal Groudon EX
Gardevoir EX-M. Gardevoir EX
Aggron EX-M. Aggron EX
The other four...based on the set description "Gaia Volcano will focus on Fire, Fighting, and Steel-type Pokemon while Tidal Storm will focus on Water, Darkness, and Fairy-type Pokemon." I speculate one will be a water type and one will be a fire type. The question is will they follow the current trend of EX's for this set only being gen 3 Pokemon? If so, then our best bet for fire will be Torkoal EX (since Camerupt would need a Mega to go with the EX, as would Blaziken. Water has a few more option available to it. And if they don't stick to that current trend...well it's anyones guess. I think the third might be a dragon type and the fourth electric, though those are completley random guesses.
GadgetJax
Traveling Storyteller and Card Faker
Horray! Mega Gardevoir and Gal- WHAT?!?! Aggron? Who made THAT descision?
Considering that Meditite will be in Primal Clash, and the inclusion of the Starters as Stage 2's, this means that it's 100% true that even if a Pokemon gets a Mega Evolution, it will still appear sometime as a Basic/Stage 1/Stage 2 and NOT an EX. Hopefully something along the lines of Scizor, Ampharos, Flygon, or the Eeveelutions could be featured as Holos!
Considering that Meditite will be in Primal Clash, and the inclusion of the Starters as Stage 2's, this means that it's 100% true that even if a Pokemon gets a Mega Evolution, it will still appear sometime as a Basic/Stage 1/Stage 2 and NOT an EX. Hopefully something along the lines of Scizor, Ampharos, Flygon, or the Eeveelutions could be featured as Holos!
Did they... did they really make a rhyme at the end of the set description? This is probably going to be a good set then! Too bad one of the Megas wasn't Tyranitar, but then guess it would've had to be another Fighting type. Can't wait for 150 cards though! Maybe it will even be over 160 with secret rares?
GadgetJax: It could still be fire, water, dragon and dark. We still have four unknown EX's in this set. We already know eventually their will be regular evolution cards to go with the Ex/M.EX line, that was first evidenced in XY when we got Xerneas and Yveltal in both forms. I just want the new fairy lines for ccg to show up sooner rather than later.
In some ways I'd like to see Pokemon get a holo treatment that have never had one before like Sunflora, Granbull Donphan and Lanturn (the prime versions of the latter two not withstanding). We've also gotten some basics as holos rather that's a good thing or not (look at XY Fofrou for example) and so I would like to add Mantine to that list. This assumes they only stick with gen 3 Pokemon and come to think of it we know they aren't. Marill is a gen 2 Pokemon. That opens up the door for almost anything.
Milennin: You're right, except for Dark Tyranitar from Neo Destiny and Dark Tyranitar from Team Rocket Returns (one of those was dual dark/fighting actually) every Tyranitar has been a dark type. However they could break the trend and have M. Tyranitar and M. Tyranitar EX be fighting types instead, it's just not likely to happen.
In some ways I'd like to see Pokemon get a holo treatment that have never had one before like Sunflora, Granbull Donphan and Lanturn (the prime versions of the latter two not withstanding). We've also gotten some basics as holos rather that's a good thing or not (look at XY Fofrou for example) and so I would like to add Mantine to that list. This assumes they only stick with gen 3 Pokemon and come to think of it we know they aren't. Marill is a gen 2 Pokemon. That opens up the door for almost anything.
Milennin: You're right, except for Dark Tyranitar from Neo Destiny and Dark Tyranitar from Team Rocket Returns (one of those was dual dark/fighting actually) every Tyranitar has been a dark type. However they could break the trend and have M. Tyranitar and M. Tyranitar EX be fighting types instead, it's just not likely to happen.
So. Freaking. Glad. I. Pre-ordered.
SO GLAD! ...I am especially pleased to see Tidal Storm has Mega Gardevoir! Well that wasn't part of this announcement but this new announcement confirms a previous one. I ordered more Tidal Storm than Gaia Volcano.
SO GLAD! ...I am especially pleased to see Tidal Storm has Mega Gardevoir! Well that wasn't part of this announcement but this new announcement confirms a previous one. I ordered more Tidal Storm than Gaia Volcano.
Aggron EX?
Yes, Aggron-EX! One of my best and favorite Mon's from my Emerald playthrough!
Can't wait to see what the other EX's are.
Edit: And I'm almost certain Gardevoir-EX will be a fairy type, because if their making Special Energy it'll most likely be based off the megas, and we are getting a Psychic Special Energy is Phantom Forces.
Can't wait to see what the other EX's are.
Edit: And I'm almost certain Gardevoir-EX will be a fairy type, because if their making Special Energy it'll most likely be based off the megas, and we are getting a Psychic Special Energy is Phantom Forces.
One of the other will be Wailord EX. For good measure they will throw in special water energy me thinks, so you can use the special fighting from furious fist for Groudon and the new special water energy for Kyogre.
Spirit link cards are quite lame, because you need to have a specific link card for a specific pokemon. The link cards should have been like general tool card where its used for any mega pokemon when evolving from an EX.
Spirit link cards are quite lame, because you need to have a specific link card for a specific pokemon. The link cards should have been like general tool card where its used for any mega pokemon when evolving from an EX.
CMP, you're right. I forgot that Honedge and presumably it's evolutions are already in this set (as a another steel type, let's make it a ghost type instead, sheesh...actually that should have been done in Phantom Forces but that is neither here nor there just a random side rant). Its also true that Marill/Azumarill is linked to Azurill but we haven't seen a baby Pokemon since the HGSS (Pichu iirc) era. Could this be the set to change to that? Sure, it's entirely possible but hard to say for sure.
Actually come to think of it we've never had more than one type of EX in the japanese sets (ignoring megas) and it's only because of japanese theme deck ex's like Combustion Wing Charziard EX or Aegislash EX and Dialga EX in the hyper metal clash theme deck or japanese promo ex's like Hawlucha EX that we have more than one of the same type of EX in our English sets. As I suspect will be the case in Phantom Forces when we'll have Diancie EX in our set despite having Florges EX as well because they got Diancie EX and M. Diancie EX in a special release, just as we'll get M. Diancie EX in a box set in January leaving Diancie EX having to be released in Phantom Forces.
That being said, we're already getting Kyogre EX (not to mention Primal Kyogre EX) so it's actually pretty unlikely we'll get another water EX in this set. I amend my EX predictions to be fire, dark, dragon and electric then.
Actually come to think of it we've never had more than one type of EX in the japanese sets (ignoring megas) and it's only because of japanese theme deck ex's like Combustion Wing Charziard EX or Aegislash EX and Dialga EX in the hyper metal clash theme deck or japanese promo ex's like Hawlucha EX that we have more than one of the same type of EX in our English sets. As I suspect will be the case in Phantom Forces when we'll have Diancie EX in our set despite having Florges EX as well because they got Diancie EX and M. Diancie EX in a special release, just as we'll get M. Diancie EX in a box set in January leaving Diancie EX having to be released in Phantom Forces.
That being said, we're already getting Kyogre EX (not to mention Primal Kyogre EX) so it's actually pretty unlikely we'll get another water EX in this set. I amend my EX predictions to be fire, dark, dragon and electric then.
In this set I would hope to see another Gen 1 EX as they have done that for all XY sets thus far, Venusaur, Blastoise, Charizard, Kangaskhan, Dragonite, Gengar, so I would expect this set to have 1 or 2.
Rapidash EX, that would be great. Especially if it preluded to a Mega Rapidash.
Come to think of it, what would be neat would be to replace these 'random' EX's with EX's that are Mega Pokemon in the game. In theory, by this time next year we could have information on Z/X2 and Y2 (or whatever they do). That's Primal Clash and three sets. By this time in two years we could have information on the what we all assume is the next generation. That's another four sets. Toward the end of that run they could release a 'Dragon Vault or Southern Islands' like product with the missing megas that would need filling in from the future mega EX's they had been releasing. It probably wouldn't get them all out but it would get out more than what we're seeing now. It's not too likely but since the knowledge of the M. Metagross EX box and the M. Diancie EX box that odds are a little bit better that it could happen.
It still makes me wonder what the theme decks for Primal Clash will be. In theory they could follow XY's example and do them based of Kyogre and Groudon as they did with Xerneas and Yveltal. They could also do theme decks based off of the starters, it already seems as if Swampert and Sceptile will not be holo in the main set but theme decks would most likely make them holo. Of course another option is 'random' Pokmemon, maybe fairy Azumarill and...another Pokemon.
You know, Japan has gotten (or will soon) have Absol EX and M. Absol EX from some promo thing. I wonder if we'll be getting a box with them in it similar to the M. Metagross EX box or if they'll be snuck into a set.
Come to think of it, what would be neat would be to replace these 'random' EX's with EX's that are Mega Pokemon in the game. In theory, by this time next year we could have information on Z/X2 and Y2 (or whatever they do). That's Primal Clash and three sets. By this time in two years we could have information on the what we all assume is the next generation. That's another four sets. Toward the end of that run they could release a 'Dragon Vault or Southern Islands' like product with the missing megas that would need filling in from the future mega EX's they had been releasing. It probably wouldn't get them all out but it would get out more than what we're seeing now. It's not too likely but since the knowledge of the M. Metagross EX box and the M. Diancie EX box that odds are a little bit better that it could happen.
It still makes me wonder what the theme decks for Primal Clash will be. In theory they could follow XY's example and do them based of Kyogre and Groudon as they did with Xerneas and Yveltal. They could also do theme decks based off of the starters, it already seems as if Swampert and Sceptile will not be holo in the main set but theme decks would most likely make them holo. Of course another option is 'random' Pokmemon, maybe fairy Azumarill and...another Pokemon.
You know, Japan has gotten (or will soon) have Absol EX and M. Absol EX from some promo thing. I wonder if we'll be getting a box with them in it similar to the M. Metagross EX box or if they'll be snuck into a set.
GadgetJax
Traveling Storyteller and Card Faker
Pikachu6319 said:
Over the course of the TCG, all Theme Decks released after the Wizards Of The Coast era that focus on a new game/remake use the Starters.
EX Ruby/Sapphire used Blaziken and Swampert (and part of the Sceptile line.)
EX Fire Red/Leaf Green used Charmeleon and Ivysaur.
Diamond & Pearl used all of the Starters.
HGSS used all of the Starters as well.
BW used all of the starters likewise.
XY didn't use the starters because the Kalos Starter Sets were released only 2-3 months prior. It would be unneccesary, so Xerneas/Yveltal were used instead. Unless a Hoenn Starter Deck set is released sometime before Primal Clash, I assume that Sceptile and Swampert will be the Central Focus for the Theme Decks.
Cannot wait to see Gardevoir's Full Art Design, hopefully she's not jumping with her back to the camera looking over her shoulder....
In terms of other ex's I would love to see a Ninetales Ex, like seriously I would collect this set in a second.
In terms of other ex's I would love to see a Ninetales Ex, like seriously I would collect this set in a second.