Standard Primal Fish 2017

[davtico]

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 15

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 1 Hoopa-EX AOR 36
* 1 Articuno ROS 17
* 1 Glaceon-EX FAC 116
* 4 Kyogre-EX PRC 148
* 3 Primal Kyogre-EX PRC 149
* 2 Manaphy-EX BKP 32
* 1 Regice AOR 24

##Trainer Cards - 33

* 4 Dive Ball PRC 125
* 4 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 3 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109
* 4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 4 Kyogre Spirit Link PRC 132
* 3 Rough Seas PRC 137
* 1 Skyla BKT 148
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 104
* 2 N DEX 96
* 2 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 2 Lysandre FLF 90

##Energy - 12

* 12 Water Energy Energy 3

Total Cards - 60

am considering
-2 Shaymin
-1 Hoopa
-1 Ultra Ball
+2 Remoraid
+2 Octillery


other things I've thought of adding but eh
-energy switch
-super rod
-energy retrieval
-hex maniac
-too much energy?

Thanks for your time!

 

[TheMuddyGamer]

Shaymin EX should probably stay just for the speed it adds to the game but i'd suggest less ultra balls due to them only being able to search for 3 of your pokemon that dive ball can't. 4 Sycamores might be a little much as well.

Suggestion:
-1 Hoopa
-2 Ultra Ball
-1 Sycamore
+2 Remoraid
+2 Octillery

 

[JadeGemTM]

I would suggest Palkia EX from BreakPoint, it has been working really well in my deck which is very similar to this. Maybe take out Hoopa for it

 

[davtico]

I would suggest Palkia EX from BreakPoint, it has been working really well in my deck which is very similar to this. Maybe take out Hoopa for it

MUCH YES! Thanks!

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 17

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 1 Articuno ROS 17
* 1 Aurorus-EX PR-XY XY102
* 1 Glaceon-EX FAC 116
* 3 Kyogre-EX PRC 148
* 3 Primal Kyogre-EX PRC 149
* 2 Manaphy-EX BKP 32
* 1 Palkia-EX BKP 31
* 1 Regice AOR 24
* 1 Remoraid BKT 32
* 1 Octillery BKT 33

##Trainer Cards - 31

* 3 Rough Seas PRC 137
* 2 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 3 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 2 Lysandre FLF 90
* 2 N DEX 96
* 3 Kyogre Spirit Link PRC 132
* 1 Shauna GEN 72
* 1 Skyla BKT 148
* 3 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 104
* 4 Dive Ball PRC 125
* 3 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
* 3 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 12

* 12 Water Energy Energy 3

Total Cards - 60

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[NightOfYuyuko]

Interesting build, my version is quite different (i use Hoopa EX and Lugia EX and a heavier supporter line)

I really recommend trying out Ninja Boy. it got me out of a lot of sticky situations by switching to a articuno and surprise KO with tri edge or regice for a quick resistance blizzard.

 

[Sneakytako]

I play a very similar deck, which I've made a thread for here.

For your deck, I would really consider adding a few double colorless energy for Regice/Glaceon EX/Kyogre EX, attacking one turn earlier can really make the difference. I would not replace your basic energy, as it makes max elixers less likely to succeed, so I would consider replacing shauna and/or ultra balls.

Speaking of ultra balls, you already have 4 diveballs to search your deck, and you have Shaymin EX/Octillery/N/Professor Sycamore for redraw. You already have 3 copies of Kyogre EX/M Kyogre and 2 copies of Manaphy EX, it just seems excessive to have 3 ultra balls on top of all that draw imo. You could either reduce your ultra balls or have less copies of the cards your trying to seek (Kyogre EX/M Kyogre/Manaphy EX/Kyogre Spirit Link could all have 1 less copy imo).

I would really consider a few using muscle bands. With band, M Kyogre would do 170 damage which would allow it to OHKO most EX basics, most breaks, and 130hp non-ex basics with fighting fury belt attached, which is pretty significant imo. But it would be rotating out next year, so one other option might be to replace with Giovanni's Scheme instead, which has the advantage of allowing you to put spirit links on freely, but is not permanent. VS seekers help recycle Giovanni late game so I think it's a pretty good fit.

Having a pokemon ranger is great against other Regice and other attack based EX immune pokemon, but your only answer to carbink (who is ability based EX immune) is lysandre right now. I would really consider adding either hex maniac or more lysandre to combat them and other locking type pokemon (like trevanent/garbadoar/Giratina EX etc)

Just my 2 cents.