Protect IP and SOPA bills trying to pass into law...

Card Slinger J

Aspiring Trainer
Member
So it looks like the Senate was trying to pass this bill called the "Commercial Felony Streaming Act" that would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted material for the purpose of "commercial advantage or personal financial gain", a felony. (currently unauthorized streaming only counts as a misdemeanor.)

The penalty could include up to 5 years in jail, it also defines illegal streaming as streaming ten or more times in a 180 day period. The value of the illegally streamed material would have to be greater than $2,500, or the licensing fees would have to be over $5,000.

This bill has been getting ALOT of heat from YouTube users concerning as to whether the bill itself would affect those who stream or post videos of copyrighted content (videogames, TV shows, music) on public sites such as YouTube. There's a site called DemandProgress.org where over 500,000 people have signed on to oppose the bill.

It's been stated that the bill isn't intended to affect the aforementioned aspects, instead it would only target websites or people who profit from illegally streaming copyrighted material.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

Fair Use Act is already in place... I doubt this will get passed. We will need to redo a lot of our entertainment business if this is passed. This bill seems to be in good intent (to stop piracy and uploading of stuff where it shouldn't go), but it is being done all wrong. Let's be happy for Ex Post Facto, or the majority of youtubers would be fined and jailed. This is just wrong, though. Fair Use Act is... well... fair. This isn't. Anyone disagree?
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

Just because it turns up in the congress or the senate doesn't mean it will go anywhere. Anyone can present a bill, unfortunately.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

PokeMedic said:
Just because it turns up in the congress or the senate doesn't mean it will go anywhere. Anyone can present a bill, unfortunately.
I propose that anyone who has dancing in their signature should be jailed for life. Any opposition?
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

This bill has been around for months and has gained more momentum than people think. It was already almost passed at one point over the summer.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

Fair Use Act shows that this bill is a case of "don't fix what's broken." We've established what's considered fair use and what's copyright infringement. Trying to enforce punishment over streaming is far from crucial for our country. Let the private companies whose copyright's are being infringed on to handle the illegal streaming, not the government. The idea of jail time is just stupid. And here I thought that the insane amounts of people arrested for drugs couldn't be topped.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

VEVO.... Enough said.

Anyways I think that people should be able to use what they want as long as its for entertainment purposes, like gaming, movies, and other things.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

So what can you do?

If you’re a citizen of the United States, call your local representatives. Calling and letter writing will always work better than email. If you don’t know their number , use this site:

http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

Read up on the law so you can be informed of what is going on:

http://americancensorship.org/
http://americancensorship.org/infographic.html
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/sopa-hollywood-finally-gets-chance-break-internet
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...d-internet-censorship-bill-makes-it-worse.ars
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...den-to-place-a-hold-on-the-protect-ip-act.ars
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/show
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/show

Also, on a closing note, please don’t think that these bills have no chance of passing, because they do. They have some powerful people backing it, and they’re trying to push it through as quickly as possible. Even if these bills are only used to target 'rogue' foreign sites as it states, it will establish a precedent for future bills. If we don't stop these bills now, how can we ever hope to stop them in the future?

Would you rather possibly overreact now, or have to worry about the possibility of these laws passing and what it could do to many of your favorite sites down the line?
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

Question- so does this mean some people wont be able to post like halo and COD gameplay?
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

It's a strong possibility yes, also If this bill becomes law forums like this one will cease to exist and we cannot allow that to happen. As for the video I posted a link to describing how this bill works here it is in summary:

The Internet is one of the United States' most robust and growing industries. It enables free open communication among billions and the backbone of protests around the world. But a new bill proposes we get the power to censor the Internet to the Entertainment Industry, it's called Protect IP and here's how it works.

Private Corporations want the ability to shutdown unauthorized sites where people download movies, tv shows, and music. Since most of these sites are outside U.S. jurisdiction Protect IP uses a couple different tactics within American borders. Firstly it gives the Government the power to make U.S. Internet Providers (ISP's) block access to infringing domain names, they can also sue U.S. based Search Engines, directories, or even blogs, and porns to have links to these sites removed.

Secondly Protect IP gives Corporations and the Government the ability to cut off funds to infringing websites by having U.S. based advertisers and payment services cancel those accounts. In a nutshell that's what Protect IP will try to do, but in all likelihood it will be something else altogether. For starters it won't stop downloaders, you'll still be able to access a blocked site just by entering it's IP address instead of it's name.

But what Protect IP will do is cripple new startups because it also lets companies sue any site they feel isn't doing their filtering well enough, these lawsuits could easily bankrupt new search engines and social media sites. And Protect IP's wording is ambiguous enough to important social media sites (ex: YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter) could become targets. Lots of trailblazing websites could look like piracy havens to the wrong judge.

Tumbler, Soundcloud, YouTube, and wherever people express themselves that make art, broadcast news, or organized protests. There's plenty of TV footage, movie clips, and copyrighted music mixed in. And even If you trust the U.S. Government not to abuse their new power to censor the net what about the countries that follow in our path and pass similiar laws. People around the world will have very different internets and unscrewculus governments will have powerful tools to hinder free expression.

But perhaps most dangerously, Protect IP will meddle with the inner workings of the net. Experts believe by fiddling with the webs registering of domain names the result will be less security and less stability. In short Protect IP won't stop piracy but it will introduce vast potential for censorship in abuse making the web less safe and less reliable. This is the Internet we're talking about, it's a vital and vibrant medium!

Our Government is tampering with it's basic structure so that maybe people will buy more Hollywood movies, don't get grassroots candidates elected, they don't overthrow corrupt regimes, and the entire Entertainment Industry doesn't even contribute that much to our economy. The Internet does all these and more. Corporations already have tools to fight piracy, they have the power to take down specific content, to sue software companies like Napster, Audiogalaxy, etc. out of existence, and to sue journalists just for talking about how to copy a DVD.

They have a history of stretching and abusing their powers, they tried to take a baby video off YouTube just for copyrighted music playing in the background. These illegal penalties written for large scale commercial piracy go after families and children. They even sued the companies behind the first VCR and mp3 players. So the question is how far will they take all this? The answer at this point is obvious. As far as we'll let them.

Since we made this video, the PROTECT IP bill has gotten much worse and is set up for quick passage. Now the government and corporations could block any site, foreign or domestic, just for one infringing link. Sites like YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook would have to censor their users or get shut down since they become liable for everything users post. And ordinary users could go to jail for 5 years for posting copyrighted work - even just singing a pop song.

Write Congress now

FightForTheFuture.org/pipa

I was also doing a Google search awhile back and it seems that the lobbyists who are trying to push this into law tried to change the name of this bill from Protect IP to E-Parasite with more vague wordings and such.
 
RE: Bill S.978 a huge threat right now?

I'm sure all of you guys are aware that there is another bill similiar to Protect IP that's trying to pass into law by the U.S. Government called SOPA otherwise known as the
Stop Online Piracy Act. The link below gives a better description of it and how it can destroy the internet as we know it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

I apologize for bumping this guys but this is a very serious issue that needs to be taken care of before it's too late. Sure there have been other bills trying to pass through Congress against Net Neutrality and we were fortunate enough of them to fail. This time the U.S. Government means serious business and there is a strong likelihood that If we don't take action now it could very well pass into law.

It looks like the group Anonymous who previously threatened to shutdown Facebook awhile back has now made a major Cyber Warfare threat to the U.S. Government with the implementation of "Operation: Black Out", details are in this link here:

http://www.federaljack.com/?p=158644

Citizens of the United States, We are Anonymous.

This is an urgent emergency alert to all people of the United States. The day we've all been waiting for has unfortunately arrived. The United States is censoring the internet. Our blatant response is that we will not sit while our rights are taken away by the government we trusted them to preserve. This is not a call to arms, but a call to recognition and action!

The United States government has mastered this corrupt way of giving us a false sense of freedom. We think we are free and can do what we want, but in reality we are very limited and restricted as to what we can do, how we can think, and even how our education is obtained. We have been so distracted by this mirage of freedom, that we have just become what we were trying to escape from.

For too long, we have been idle as our brothers and sisters were arrested. During this time, the government has been scheming, plotting ways to increase censorship through means of I S P block aides, D N S blockings, search engine censorship, website censorship, and a variety of other methods that directly oppose the values and ideas of both Anonymous as well as the founding fathers of this country, who believed in free speech and press!

The United States has often been used as an example of the ideal free country. When the one nation that is known for its freedom and rights start to abuse its own people, this is when you must fight back, because others are soon to follow. Do not think that just because you are not a United States citizen, that this does not apply to you. You cannot wait for your country to decide to do the same. You must stop it before it grows, before it becomes acceptable. You must destroy its foundation before it becomes too powerful.

Has the U.S. government not learned from the past? Has it not seen the 2011 revolutions? Has it not seen that we oppose this wherever we find it and that we will continue to oppose it? Obviously the United States Government thinks they are exempt. This is not only an Anonymous collective call to action. What will a Distributed Denial of Service attack do? What's a website de face ment against the corrupted powers of the government? No. This is a call for a worldwide internet and physical protest against the powers that be. Spread this message everywhere. We will not stand for this! Tell your parents, your neighbors, your fellow workers, your school teachers, and anyone else you come in contact with. This affects anyone that desires the freedom to browse anonymously, speak freely without fear of retribution, or protest without fear of arrest.

Go to every I R C network, every social network, every online community, and tell them of the atrocity that is about to be committed. If protest is not enough, the United States government shall see that we are truly legion and we shall come together as one force opposing this attempt to censor the internet once again, and in the process discourage any other government from continuing or trying.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive censorship.
We do not forget the denial of our free rights as human beings.
To the United States government, you should've expected us.
 
Wow those lobbyists supporting Hollywood just won't give up, when is Hollywood going to get through their thick skulls that their old business model to make money is dead? Well anyway here's another thread regarding the latest update on the whole
Protect IP/SOPA/E-Parasite Bills:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/197287-sopa-sponsors-slam-cost-prospects-of-alternate-online-piracy-bill

At least we got Bernie Sanders on our side on this situation, one of the only politicians that has common sense about how these bills funded by these lobbyists that are trying to further destroy America's Economy and perhaps for the rest of the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYX6KP9COYI&feature=player_embedded

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
 
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/sopa-watered-down-amendment/

Looks like the man behind this has watered the bill down. As it looks like now, if it passes, that only foreign sides will be affected by this which also includes sites like Serebii.net. Anything ending with an .com,.org or .net will not be covered by this bill.

The web is somewhat safe(atleast regarding to SOPA, don't know about PIPA though).
Yes, it would still be censoring, but at least most of the internet won't be shut down now.
 
Back
Top