Ruling Question on Wally's Training~!

Tsubasa

Tsubasa

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Wally's Training says that search a card frm deck that evolves frm my active pokemon(choose 1 if there are 2). wat does the choose 1 if there are 2 means? does it work like rare candy/pokemon breeder that can evolve to stage 2? or only stage by stage. Basic>stg1>stg2?
 
stage by stage, it means that if you're playing 2-on-2 battle, you have 2 active pokemon, and it means that you search your deck for 1 evolution card of 1 active okemon.
 
dark JC, I've seen you posting on 8 threads, as last person, always. And you NEVER add something to the thread, you just repeat what other people have stated.
Ever heard of spamming? Better stop this or you'll be rewarded with a ban.
 
I suppose I'll post this here since it relates to Wally's Training as well.

The above statements are correct, any effect that says "Choose 1 if there are 2" refers to 2 on 2 battles. Wally's Training would be really broken if it evolved BOTH of your Active Pokemon.

Anyways, I've got a question about Wally's Training as well. This gets around the normal evolution rule like Rare Candy, being that you can lay a Basic down and use this card to evolve him in the same turn. My question, can you evolve the Basic into a Stage 1 Pokemon and then use Wally's Training to evolve it again into a Stage 2 on the same turn? My gut says no since that's a double evolution, but if Wally's Training breaks one of those normal evolution rules, I'm curious about the others.

If so, in a way it's almost like a Rare Candy. But like I said, it's probably not legal.
 
Anytime a cards says something like that, it refers to people playing a two on two battle. So they say chose one of the active Pokemon's evolve forms...
 
Alchemist_Almighty said:
I suppose I'll post this here since it relates to Wally's Training as well.

The above statements are correct, any effect that says "Choose 1 if there are 2" refers to 2 on 2 battles.  Wally's Training would be really broken if it evolved BOTH of your Active Pokemon.

Anyways, I've got a question about Wally's Training as well.  This gets around the normal evolution rule like Rare Candy, being that you can lay a Basic down and use this card to evolve him in the same turn.  My question, can you evolve the Basic into a Stage 1 Pokemon and then use Wally's Training to evolve it again into a Stage 2 on the same turn?  My gut says no since that's a double evolution, but if Wally's Training breaks one of those normal evolution rules, I'm curious about the others.

If so, in a way it's almost like a Rare Candy.  But like I said, it's probably not legal.
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Ooh, I actually know this one! I remember reading about this specifically in the Compendium or on the forums or somewhere like that. You can evolve your basic the regular way and then use Wally for a Rare Candyish effect. However, if you use Wally first to evolve your Basic, you can't evolve it again from your hand because it says "This counts as evolving the Pokemon," or something to that effect, which means that you used up your evolution for the turn. I'm just too lazy to actually find the link. :p And you can't even Candy it up, since Rare Candy only works on Basics. I think you could Candy to a Stage 1 and then Wally to a Stage 2, right?
 
Hey, one more question about Wally's Training. If I had a baby pokemon out, could I use Wally's to search my deck for a evolution of that baby. I ask this, because the evolution is also a basic and doesn't have the "Evolves from.." picture since it can be by itself.
 
No, Pikachu doesnt say evolves from Pichu for example, so it cant.

For the same reason, if Pichu or say Tyrouge's Pokepower gets turned off, it cant evolve into its next stage. For one simple reason, Pikachu cant evolve from Pichu because it doesnt say that it does on Pikachu or Pichu (since Pokepower is off)
 
You can't use Wally's Training to evolve babies (i.e. things with Baby Evolution or the older baby rule). The reason for this is because Wally's Training tells you to search for a card that "evolves from" your Active Pokémon. This means you find a card that says "Evolves from [your Active Pokémon]" on it (for example, if you used Wally's Training with an Eevee active, you would search your deck for any card that said "Evolves from Eevee."

There is no card that says "Evolves from Cleffa" or "Evolves from Pichu", so Wally's Training has nothing to search for.

And playing Rare Candy counts as evolving, too (so you can't Candy and then evolve normally from your hand). The reason you can Candy and then Wally is because both cards break standard evolution rules.

CTRL + F works wonders. Here are the relevant rulings for Wally's Training for this topic, plus a couple others I left just to take note on:

== WALLY'S TRAINING (EX:Sandstorm)


Q. Can I use Wally's Training on a Pokémon that has already evolved normally that turn?
A. Yes. Wally's Training can break the rules for normal evolution in that case. It also can allow a player to evolve a Pokémon the first turn it is in play, except for the very first turn of the game (for each player). In order for Wally's Training to break the "first turn of the game" evolution, the card would have to specifically say so. (Sep 26, 2003 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training on a Pokémon I just evolved that turn with Rare Candy?
A. Yes. Trainer cards that allow an evolution to take place, breaks the standard evolution rule that states you can only evolve once in a turn. (Sep 26, 2003 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training to evolve a Baby Pokémon into its next stage? What about the newer forms of babies that are considered "Basic Pokémon" but have the "Baby Evolution" Poké-POWER?
A. Wally's Training states if you have a card that "Evolves From" your Pokémon There are currently no cards with text saying "evolves from" its baby form, so Wally's Training will not work on any form of baby Pokémon (Oct 23, 2003 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training search for Pikachu when you have a Pichu active?
A. No, Wally's Training states to search for a card that "Evolves From" your active Pokémon Pikachu does not say that it "Evolves From" Pichu, so Wally's Training will not work in this situation. (Sep 11, 2003 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training on a Machoke to search through my deck, even if there are no Machamps in my deck?
A. Yes you can. Machamp is a valid evolution of Machoke, even if you don't have one in your deck. (Jan 22, 2004 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training on a Mewtwo to search my deck, even though there is no evolution of Mewtwo?
A. No, there has to at least be the possibility of a valid evolution in order to use this card. Sorry. (Jan 22, 2004 PUI Rules Team)

Q. Can I use Wally's Training in conjunction with Buried Fossil to search for an Omanyte, Kabuto, or Aerodactyl? And how about Aerodactyl-EX too?
A. Wally's Training states to search for a card that "Evolves From" your active Pokémon Buried Fossil has special text on it that says, "You may play a Pokémon card that evolves from Mysterious Fossil on top of Buried Fossil". So Wally's Training will work in both of these situations. (Jan 29, 2004 PUI Rules Team)

Q. What does "This counts as evolving that Pokémon" mean, in game terms?
A. It counts towards the one evolution per turn for that Pokémon (with exceptions for Trainers and Pokémon Powers that break that rule) and removes Special Conditions on that Pokémon. (Sep 26, 2003 PUI Rules Team)
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