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A youtuber that works very closely with Nintendo (and before you ask, yes he does indeed work with Nintendo. They give him review copies of games and he is suppose to build hype for said games) has schedules a particular game to stream on a very odd date.

This Youtuber? Abdallahsmash206. The date? November 18th.

It is not likely to be the EXACT date, he has gotten games a week early like his Fire Emblem copy just for the purpose of using streams to build hype.

Meaning we can be looking at a November 18th- November 25th release date for Moon and Sun.

edit: Speculated date confirmed by his own mouth
 
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So, its important to remember the distinction between rumored and confirmed.

Youtube video posting a placeholder date for a stream in 8 months? Rumored release date

Nintendo posted the release date in a press release/direct/official Nintendo-Pokemon youtube channel etc. Confirmed release date.

The date range itself is interesting, it lines up with when OR/AS came out in 2014. Nintendo did say Holiday 2016 which puts the release right around Thanksgiving weekend to Christmas Day (for the states at least)

So it seems highly likely.
 
Sounds about right for a Holiday 2016 window. Ideally they want to target Black Friday since that's one of the biggest shopping days of the year, so they need it out by mid to late November.
 
Abdallahsmash206 isn't allowed to confirm unreleased info like that. YouTubers who get these early copies from Nintendo have a very restricted list of things they can actually reveal about the game. E.g. they can only show footage of the game up to a certain point, and sometimes Nintendo literally just tells them not to communicate parts of the game which they recognise are slightly worse than other mechanics or levels. The entire time there are features the hype builders aren't allowed to talk about and, of course, the release date can't be discussed before it's officially announced.

Also, how would this guy actually know this? He doesn't work with Nintendo -- he works under them. Nintendo tells him what they want him to know and nothing more. The only scenario I can think of is if they sent him an e-mail or w/e saying "you will get your copy of SM a week early on November 18th 2016". This is unlikely because A) that's super organised. Way more organised than Nintendo has been with past games. And B) It means that the game is nearly or already finished! 2 or 3 day delays in the development period are why companies announce vague release dates to start with, like "Holiday 2016". GF won't sit on a gold mine for almost an entire year just for the purposes of hype building; that's poor business sense.

So yeah, I don't think this rumour is worth anything. If Abdallahsmash genuinely revealed this information, he's breached his agreement with Nintendo and has jeapordised his career by doing so. He's smarter than that.
 
Celever said:
Also, how would this guy actually know this? He doesn't work with Nintendo -- he works under them. Nintendo tells him what they want him to know and nothing more.
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The fact that he works under them, and not for them is crucial.

There's been several cases of YouTubers who've previously been affiliated with Nintendo in some way or another who claims to sit on important information regarding their upcoming games. Just half a year ago there was a guy named "RogersBase" who claimed to have information regarding an upcoming Smash Bros DLC character (who was later revealed to be Cloud Strife). He had actually worked for Nintendo as a product demonstrator a couple of years prior, so tons of people actually believed all the humbug he wrote on his Twitter account.

I believe that large YouTubers who might be able to have a positive impact on the number of sales for an upcoming game (JWittz etc.) can be able to get game information a couple of weeks earlier than the rest of us. However, there's no reason for Nintendo (or other developers for what it's worth) to give away top-secret information to low-rank workers or members of the general public (Youtubers or other personalities in the gaming community) that early. The games industry is fiercely competitive, and developers simply can't risk any leaks getting out. It's a multi-million dollar industry after all.

Take every rumour you hear with a big grain of salt. Remember that these games won't be released for another 8-months, there's hardly any credible rumours/leaks that early in a game's development cycle.
 
How reliable is your source? I mean I could make a video and say I work for nintendo and so on and so forth aswell. Always take rumors with a grain of salt
 
QueenGastrodon said:
A youtuber that works very closely with Nintendo (and before you ask, yes he does indeed work with Nintendo. They give him review copies of games and he is suppose to build hype for said games) has schedules a particular game to stream on a very odd date.

This Youtuber? Abdallahsmash206. The date? November 18th.

It is not likely to be the EXACT date, he has gotten games a week early like his Fire Emblem copy just for the purpose of using streams to build hype.

Meaning we can be looking at a November 18th- November 25th release date for Moon and Sun.
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LIKELY DISPROVEN.

^ Look at page 6, and you'll see "Winter 2016" on the Japanese section of 3DS software, but "Holiday 2016" on the NA section of 3DS software, which, unless I'm wrong and/or unrealistic, might mean an unrealistic timing in terms of realistic expected windows of release. After all, if it's still scheduled for November worldwide, when the official schedule now says "winter 2016" for Japan...

^ Unless they want to release it to NA first, allowing Americans to play it first, and before Japan and Europe can play it, as Winter 2016 technically begins on December 21st of this year: a Wednesday, it would be a hint that Pokemon S/M will either miss the Christmas 2016 window in Japan, which I doubt Nintendo will allow, as pokemon is a Japanese-native franchise, so it might put chaos into the TCG and anime in terms of "not released here first? Unless they want to move the franchise's first-to-see-the-new-products region, that's an abnormal occurrence!" should they choose to make such a drastic move to skip Japan in terms of who gets to play S/M first, the only other possibility is if either S/M barely makes the Christmas season by releasing on Christmas Eve, or it misses Christmas worldwide, as December 25th means closed retail, putting S/M in post-Xmas, New Year's Eve week territory if it is to make 2016 at all... :(
 
cardgjammer said:
LIKELY DISPROVEN.

^ Look at page 6, and you'll see "Winter 2016" on the Japanese section of 3DS software, but "Holiday 2016" on the NA section of 3DS software, which, unless I'm wrong and/or unrealistic, might mean an unrealistic timing in terms of realistic expected windows of release. After all, if it's still scheduled for November worldwide, when the official schedule now says "winter 2016" for Japan...

^ Unless they want to release it to NA first, allowing Americans to play it first, and before Japan and Europe can play it, as Winter 2016 technically begins on December 21st of this year: a Wednesday, it would be a hint that Pokemon S/M will either miss the Christmas 2016 window in Japan, which I doubt Nintendo will allow, as pokemon is a Japanese-native franchise, so it might put chaos into the TCG and anime in terms of "not released here first? Unless they want to move the franchise's first-to-see-the-new-products region, that's an abnormal occurrence!" should they choose to make such a drastic move to skip Japan in terms of who gets to play S/M first, the only other possibility is if either S/M barely makes the Christmas season by releasing on Christmas Eve, or it misses Christmas worldwide, as December 25th means closed retail, putting S/M in post-Xmas, New Year's Eve week territory if it is to make 2016 at all... :(
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When it comes to release windows, Winter is used to describe the Oct/Nov/Dec block of the calendar. Not the actually winter season from Dec/Jan/Feb. They do it the Oct/Nov/Dec way to not confuse people into thinking that the game will actually not come out until 2017, even though it says Winter 2016.

So the Friday November release date right before or the week of Black Friday holiday spending still works for world wide release.
 
Materious17 said:
So the Friday November release date right before or the week of Black Friday holiday spending still works for world wide release.
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Honestly, I don't think you really couldn't drum that up better if you tried. That's pretty much a perfect time to release products for the Christmas/Holiday shopping season.
 
Tails said:
Honestly, I don't think you really couldn't drum that up better if you tried. That's pretty much a perfect time to release products for the Christmas/Holiday shopping season.
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Except that Black Friday is only a thing in America. :p While America is a large market, Game Freak's focus is still in Japan. It makes sense to me that it would be released a little earlier than Black Friday. Besides, it's not like Nintendo will give Black Friday deals on a brand new A-list game.
 
I believe October still falls just short out of the Holiday 2016 bracket, but a November 2016 (more likely very late November) release seems likely as it gives the game enough time to build up hype for retailers to promote it for around the Christmas holiday shopping season in December.
 
The release date has been cofirmed to be Nov 18th for Japan and NA, and Nov 23rd for Europe. So good job TC for this find. :)
 
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