Rigged Professor Juniper

Zeto

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Check it out, i got this one today, and have absolutely no idea if it s playable, valuable... Just found that it s different from other cards. Can anyone help me out?

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What is different about it? If it is the weird crinkling at the top, it probably got stuck somewhere in the printing/packaging process. Otherwise it is a normal Juniper to be in the Dark Explorers set.

EDIT: I don't think it is playable because the crinkling will probably distinguish it from other cards.
 
i don t think i can play it, with ultra pro plastics, i can barely see the difference between this and a normal card, while my opponent will never find out.
 
If you can't tell the difference between that card and a regular card, then it's okay. An example would be if the Juniper is sleeved, but since the cut is on the top of the card, I'm not sure if it's possible. (If you have that kind of sleeve, it should be okay.)

If you can successfully camouflage it in a sleeve completely, then it's fine. When in doubt, ask the Head Judge.

I personally wouldn't play it, since error cards are like collector's items and they're better when not played, and Junipers are pretty easy to come by anyway so it's not that big of a deal to get one.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
I personally wouldn't play it, since error cards are like collector's items

I do not know if I would call them that, but you may find someone willing to offer above the card's value for it.

Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
they're better when not played, and Junipers are pretty easy to come by anyway so it's not that big of a deal to get one.

Very true.
 
I decided to go look at the Tourney Rules myself to see what I could find. Sure enough, this very situation is addressed under section 15.7:

15.7. Proxies

[...]

In some cases, a card is damaged due to a production error. Players should do their best to avoid playing with these cards, though sometimes that is not possible. If the judge feels that this creates a marked-card situation, the judge may create a proxy card to act as the damaged card in all ways for the remainder of the tournament. The damaged card must be retained to use as a reference when the proxy card is played.

So see if it's marked or not if it's put in a sleeve (since sleeves are considered part of the card). If it's still marked, replace it with an undamaged version. If you can't, the judge will create a proxy.
 
I'd give you a few bucks for it so you can buy a new one if you want. PM me if you are willing to trade/sell it.

I wouldn't try and play it because the marks at the top would either cause wrinkling in the sleeve or stand out.
 
Does this happen frequently (in relevant terms) or is it a once in a million chance? Does it tend to increase or decrease the value of the card, particularly if it is a highly collectible card? For example, if there was a Gem Mint (aside from the crinkling) 1st Edition Base Set Charizard 4/102 that had this crinkling, would it drastically alter the price of the card?

SP

EDIT: Sorry that my post wasn't specifically about the Juniper card that the OP has. To fix that, I will add this: I'm guessing if you had a non-clear sleeve that no one would be able to notice the crinkling, although I have never had a card like that, let alone tried to play with it in a deck :p.
 
@Secret Pikachu~ This would classify it as an error. Although it is not common enough to get a name, it is not one of a kind. I have seen 3-4 other cases like this.
As for the value, I believe it was a member named PokePop that said
With error cards, a lot of the extra value comes from the "wow" factor, in my opinion.

If you can show a card to someone and they say "Wow! That card has no Hit Points!" or "Wow, that shows Wartortle evolving from Wartortle!", then you get a big jump in value because it's a "cool" error.

However, if you have to explain the error ("see, it's supposed to have 2 stripes and it only has one"), then you're going to get more of a "huh, how about that", and you're not going to get much of a boost.

So, in my opinion, I do think these errors are cool. There is a Tropius like this listed on Ebay for $100. Now, I don't think this is that cool, and I would find it hard to spend $100 on any error card, let alone one like this (The $100+ range is usually reserved for No Damage Ninetales or No Stage Blastoise and the such). So, this card is worth, what? $0.25 since it is non-holo? I'd give like $3-$5 for cards like it because it is an error that I find cool. But not all collectors agree, so the price on more limited one of a kind error cards is very relative to the collector.
 
@ Daelum: That makes a lot of sense. It's neat seeing a card like that, but I agree, I wouldn't want to spend more than a few dollars on it. The No Damage Ninetales and No Stage Blastoise sound like more interesting cards. I'd still like to see if a crinkled 1st Edition Base Set Charizard would bring more $$ :p

Thanks for helping me out so much recently!
 
Secret Pikachu said:
@ Daelum: That makes a lot of sense. It's neat seeing a card like that, but I agree, I wouldn't want to spend more than a few dollars on it. The No Damage Ninetales and No Stage Blastoise sound like more interesting cards. I'd still like to see if a crinkled 1st Edition Base Set Charizard would bring more $$ :p

Thanks for helping me out so much recently!


I think if there was any sort of error (even one of those lame ink bubble errors) on a 1st Edition Base Charizard, it would increase the value :p


Oh, no, thank you! I love helping people out. Why? Because not only do I help educate them (and avoid having to deal with stupid situations later on :p), but I also learn a lot in the process. When someone posts a question and I don't immediately know the answer, I always go research it to see if I can help. That way everyone involved learns something new.
I guess it's also because I used to be a super noob and remember my days learning what I know now (and trust me, I'm still learning) and I would just hate for anyone to be put down or put off of Pokemon because people are rude to them and don't help them.
Treat others the way you want to be treated~ :)
 
Secret Pikachu said:
Does this happen frequently (in relevant terms) or is it a once in a million chance? Does it tend to increase or decrease the value of the card, particularly if it is a highly collectible card? For example, if there was a Gem Mint (aside from the crinkling) 1st Edition Base Set Charizard 4/102 that had this crinkling, would it drastically alter the price of the card?

SP

EDIT: Sorry that my post wasn't specifically about the Juniper card that the OP has. To fix that, I will add this: I'm guessing if you had a non-clear sleeve that no one would be able to notice the crinkling, although I have never had a card like that, let alone tried to play with it in a deck :p.

From New Errors and Misprints Thread

Printer: When a single card or a very small run of cards have the same error. Normally smudges, miscuts, alignment errors. Value is variable and discretionary.
 
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