Ruling Rulings on Mistakes

[venasour x]

What is the ruling if I KO one of my oppontents Pokemon and forget to take a prize? And what happens if I think it is my turn and draw a card, but in the end he wasn't finished with his? And what happens if the at next tournament I am at I do the same thing (think it is my turn, draw a card, but I wasn't supposed to)?

 

[AmishEskimoNinja]

These kind of events have to be handled on a case-by-case basis at the judge's discretion. In the case of drawing a prize the game must be re-wound as best as possible to correct the error because drawing prizes is not optional. It is up to the judge whether or not to give a warning. If the player does it again, they will most likely receive a game loss. Drawing a card before the end of your opponent's turn should be handled in a similar manner. However, since it does not effect the game, I personally would not give a waring on the first offense,

 

[PokeMedic]

I am a tournament organizer, but I can't offer a straight forward answer for your first question. It's something that is case by case. A as long as a player did knock out a Pokemon then they can draw their prize cards, but it is his or her responsibility to do so. If it is a repeat problem I'll issue a penalty. The official tournament rules do not offer a clear example, so we can improvise. There are occasions though when a player can gain an advantage by having more prize cards than their opponent, so I would issue the appropriate penalty for that. If they did so on purpose then it would be cheating and would result in disqualification.

Drawing a card before your turn starts, by accident, can be interpreted as a few things by different people. At a minimum you can receive a penalty for a minor game-play error and receive a warning or caution depending on the event. At worst you can be considered cheating and disqualified. The penalty document is very litigious.

At all premier events, penalties are reported to the P!P program and reviewed. They look for players who commit repeated infractions and may have extra eyes watching over them at premier events. Tournament Organizers may also keep record themselves for the same reasons -I do.

Sorry to reply when you were already answered, I was replying and got side-tracked with something else.

 

[King Arceus]

As far as your last question, to my knowledge judges should not carry knowledge of infractions at previous tournaments to following tournaments

I disagree with this part. If you know a player has done something frequently in the past, you might start with a higher level penalty. I believe the guidelines let us do that the last time I checked. For example, if you know a certain player always stalls, you might start one penalty level higher.~Mark

 

[DNA]

Everyone explode post now!

What is the ruling if I KO one of my oppontents Pokemon and forget to take a prize?

As has been previously stated, case-by-case basis. If it's been several turns since you took the prize, or a card such as Judge was played before you remember, then a more serious penalty would be issued. However if your opponent is, say, right in the middle of his turn and then you remember, it isn't as serious (as not a lot has changed since).

And what happens if I think it is my turn and draw a card, but in the end he wasn't finished with his?

Pay more attention.

Try to get in the habit of confirming that your opponent is done before you draw. Audibly announcing an attack, making a hand gesture towards you, or saying "Pass" are all good indicators that the opponent's turn is over. However, if you are not sure, it's best to ask.
However if it does end up happening, usually what happens is that you'll need to put the card back right away, and the judge will probably give you a Caution.

And what happens if the at next tournament I am at I do the same thing (think it is my turn, draw a card, but I wasn't supposed to)?

Generally, first-time offenses give you lesser penalty level, but if it's a persistent occurrence the penalty level will begin to escalate. For a lot of things it won't escalate higher than a warning, but if it's something like, say, you keep forgetting to pick up your prize cards, it could even be a Prize penalty. But...case-by-case basis.

If you know a player has done something frequently in the past, you might start with a higher level penalty. I believe the guidelines let us do that the last time I checked. For example, if you know a certain player always stalls, you might start one penalty level higher.~Mark

This is correct - this is permissible and allowed by the Penalty Guidelines. If you know a player habitually does the same thing over and over, you would start one level up (like Warning instead of Caution). But if it's something like the player is stalling unintentionally (I have been in a similar situation in which there was someone playing slowly all day, but he was sleep-deprived), then on the first offense you can let it slide.
But it's always the judge's call.

 

[AmishEskimoNinja]

At all premier events, penalties are reported to the P!P program and reviewed. They look for players who commit repeated infractions and may have extra eyes watching over them at premier events.

I didn't know that. I removed the misinformation from my post. I always choose to play, rather than judge the premier events...