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Expanded Sceptile / Ariados / Typhlosion

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Millitantmachine

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the purpose of this post is to get suggestions on how to make this deck more versatile with the trainers.
I only use this deck for fun so it doesn't have to be "legal"

Pokemon: (22)
  • Sceptile EX
  • Spinarak (2)
  • Ariados (2)
  • Vespiquen 10/98
  • Vespiquen 11/98
  • Combee (2)
  • Keldeo EX
  • Emboar EX
  • Heatmor
  • Numel
  • Camerupt
  • Cyndaquil
  • Quilava
  • Typhlosion
  • Pansear
  • Simisear
  • Smeargle
  • Dodou
  • Dodrio


Trainers: (26)
  • Misty's Determination
  • Skyla
  • Shauna
  • Giovanni's Scheme
  • Professor Sycamore
  • Wally(2)
  • Tierno(2)
  • Super Rod
  • Roller Skates
  • Wide Lens
  • Max Elixir
  • Trick Coin
  • Potion(2)
  • Computer Search
  • Battle Compressor(3)
  • Professor Letter(4)
  • Fighting Fury Belt(2)

Energy(12)
  • Water Energy (4)
  • Fire Energy (4)
  • Grass Energy (4)

So the main idea is to set up Sceptile EX and Ariados so I can hit my opponent with Unseen Claw and to deal poison damage on top of Sceptile EX. Later in the game I'm using Vespiquen as I should have a fair amount of Pokemon in the discard. I also have a Pokemon with an ability in order to find the correct energy for my Pokemon.
I'm looking for help with trainers mostly,also I'm fine with swapping out the Typhlosion line as a rarely see it in a game from the start.
I'd like to keep the Battle Compressors for discard ability when I'm using Vespiquen
and Trick Coin is useful for Vespiquen's Bee Drain.
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This looks looks like a very complicated deck. Too many pokemons too few trainers.
Tips:
  • Use float stone combined with Keldeo
  • You need cards that fit together 1-1 lines of everything usualy doesn't work (you don't need to have over 20 pokemons, many decks only have around 12).
  • Consentrate on building a deck with a purpose (more damage, item lock, damage on the bench etc.).
  • You need to choose wich trainers to use. You can't take 1 of each. You need more drawsupport, so i recommend 3/4 sycamore and 3/4 N. Hav your trainers in the deck for a reason. If you want to accelerate energy, play 4 max elixir (professors letter won't work, you can only attach 1 energy from hour han each turn).
  • No one plays poition...it sucks
  • Find a card, try to find other cards tvat fits well with the first card. Look at other decklists and how they have built their deck. A lot of the pokemons you have included are the main pokemons in different decks. Vespiqueen (bee revenge), Typhlotion, Sceptile, Camerupt etc.
  • If you take out most of the other pokemons and use more sceptiles and mega sceptiles, you can make a deck based around that.
Good luck and hoped this helped
 
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Consistancy will be a nightmare with this deck. I get your thinking behind it, but you need to shrink it down to 2-3 strategy vs the 6 you have so that your deck can be more consistant.
 
@Millitantmachine The number of strategies this deck uses is insane!!! To make this deck semi-effective, you need to cut down on the Pokemon lines (Simisear, Dodrio, Camerupt, Typhosion, Smeargle, Heatmor, Vespiquen, Ariados), and replace them with thicker amounts of everything. The Keldeo should not be used to attack, allowing the water energies to become Grass and Fire. Trainers with little to no usage (Roller skates, Wide lens, Trick coin, Potions, Tierno, a couple of Professor's Letters) should be replaced with items such as Trainer's Mail, VS Seeker, Ultra Ball, and Float Stone and supporters such as more Sycamores, N, Lysandre and potentially some such as Hex Maniac and Pokemon Ranger. I suggest you look at some successful decks in the most recent Nationals to get inspiration as to how to build decks with better consistency and Pokemon to Trainer ratios.
I hope this helped!
 
Thanks for the input. The strategy with the deck really depends on which card I first draw into if it keldeo then I search for water energy and semisear,smeargle
If I draw a vespiquen (depending on which one) I set that up by discarding Pokemon. I feel this deck has plenty of consistency . I'm going to add sycamore n juniper for draw support and the float stone (couldn't I just use switch?) and vs seeker. My only complaint or gripe about this whole site in general is how people get stuck in this mindset that u should only have a few Pokemon and one strategy for consistency. While that may be true if I was entering a tournament where I'm going against top players with top performing decks I only use this deck for fun so super consistent deck isn't necessary. I appreciate the suggestions for the trainer lines I'm going to implement into this deck. I'll post the updated deck soon thanks again
 
Also I feel wide lens is a great card for this deck. If I vs a grass deck and start with a fire Pokemon n they bring a colorless or water Pokemon to combat the weakness I'm trying to exploit I can play wide lens and exploit the bench. As for the number of Pokemon I feel if I draw into vespiquen it makes sense to have a lot of Pokemon that I can discard
 
@Millitantmachine I get that some of these Pokemon might work, I'm just saying that in order to get to use all the trainers you need, you need to cut down on Pokemon (At least get rid of Dodrio and some fire line and get 4 Ultra Balls). The float stone instead of switch is for use with Keldeo to cancel out any potential Status Conditions (Rush-in retreat).
 
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