Should Lass be reprinted?

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Lass - a useful Trainer card that, at it's time; forced you and your opponent to shuffle your Trainer cards back into the deck. If used in unlimited play today, it would target Item cards rather than it's original intention of shuffling every kind of Trainer card back into the deck. If it were reprinted, chances are it would target Items, Supporters, and Stadiums. It could easily become a good staple and have meta-crippling effects on things such as Yanmega Prime, and to some extent, Zekrom and Reshiram. While there are a few drawbacks, this card can easily be the last card you play before deciding to attack. This way, you might not have a lot to worry about, and your opponent could possibly even have a few cards that would put you in a tight spot. On top of all this, you also get a peek at their hand and can anticipate what you should do next.

So, what does everyone else think? Deserves a reprint? Share your thoughts~
 
This card would easily be the most broken card in the modified format were it to be printed today. If it only impacted Item cards, it would still be broken. The only truly viable decks would be Vileplume/Gothitelle ones but even those decks would have a hard time setting up. I would cry if I saw this card get reprinted.
 
ESP said:
This card would easily be the most broken card in the modified format were it to be printed today. If it only impacted Item cards, it would still be broken. The only truly viable decks would be Vileplume/Gothitelle ones but even those decks would have a hard time setting up. I would cry if I saw this card get reprinted.
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Honestly, it would be one of the most broken cards, but we've got a few broken cards out already now don't we? In my opinion it could be used to cripple those ones, though without that intention it can be a pretty malicious card.
 
This card would just be bad for the format. I'm assuming this would be a Supporter here, so think about its effect on the meta:

Vileplume would be broken.

If you just play one of these early-on, Vileplume doesn't have to worry about the disadvantage of not having Items in the deck. It can just use Lass. google.dec becomes OP; there's not a whole lot this card does to help the format in any way.
 
Before it's brought up: no, it won't overcentralize the metagame. Overcentralize isn't even a word.
Now that I have that out of the way, let's go on.

I actually have a question...why would cards like Gothitelle and Vileplume be broken with Lass? Wouldn't shuffling them back into the deck and preventing them from using them do essentially the same thing...?
 
Turn one lass, they have no trainers. Turn 2-3 Set up Vileplume/Gothitelle and the opponent never gets to use a single trainer during the entire game.

Anyway, I can't see any upsides from this card being reintroduced, only downsides. All problems anyone has with this format (t1 trainers is unfair, games are too long) would be made worse. If you go first and draw lass you win outright, regardless of matchup. Lass would also make it take much longer to set up, slowing games down more. As for cards already being broken and this hurting them, lass hurts everything so much that nothing would be viable other than Gothitelle and Vileplume, and nothing new would become viable.
 
Well, maybe not Gothitelle, but Vileplume decks already barely use trainers so they would be the only viable decks in the format if everything else was using Lass to get rid of everyone's trainers that their decks rely on.
 
Hmmm....never really took Vileplume and Gothitelle into consideration. I guess it would make things worse for the game unless there was some sort of drawback to it.
 
I actually have a question...why would cards like Gothitelle and Vileplume be broken with Lass? Wouldn't shuffling them back into the deck and preventing them from using them do essentially the same thing...?
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Gothitelle in conjunction with Lass would shuffle any Item cards your opponent has into the deck...thus increasing the odds that their starting draw for each turn would be an Item card. That's why this would be a good combo.

I definitely wouldn't mind Lass getting reprinted, just so long as it would be a Supporter card, and target only Items. This could potentially shift the meta away from being so Item-oriented, like it is right now.

Of course, I support the reprint of any card that causes trouble for players, but especially Energy Removal :p
 
This would be a horrible card in this format, especially if it affected Supporters too. If it shuffled back items only and was a supporter... it would still be a staple card. I'm not sure if broken, but very near to it at least.
 
I think that this card would actually make CERTAIN match ups (vileplume vs speed-dragons) more balanced thus making the future format balanced, if the effect only blocked items and was a supporter. Ok I know what your thinking "Vileplume is overpowered!!!" And to some extent this would be true. But vileplume would probably only benifit from it and not gothiletle because, 1. Vileplume would also block you preventing the use of items. so vileplume decks are prone to having less items than most alternate decks, giving the deck less of problem when played. 2. Gothitelle normally runs an average item count so would cripple itself, gothitelle will by the time of this cards release have mewtwo ex to worry about, considering that it is that one card that would not loose too much to an item decrease thanks to its probable speed ruining most of your ideas involving the gothic item lock!!! Vileplume needs this card to stay a top tier deck with the upcoming ex dragons, who will have great speed.
 
^Um, what? Your entire post basically admitted that since Vileplume is the only one to benefit from this, Vileplume would become broken, but that's fine because you like it more than new cards coming out? Also, the EXes except for Mewtwo all require 3-4 energy for their attacks, so they are not fast at all. That's not a very good arguement in favor of Lass...
 
Really now? If it were to be reprinted I don't think it would be THAT broken at all. I mean... it's not like you have to discard the trainers or anything, only shuffle them back into your deck. Plus another thing that needs to be put into consideration is that not everyone plays the 4 metagame decks. There are plenty of other decks that can hold their own against the metagame that may benefit from this card.

In my opinion it'd be a fun reprint for the game plus it'd be cool to see another reprint of a really old card. :D
 
The fact that some non-meta decks benefit from it doesn't really matter. If this card comes out, Vileplume-based decks (and, to an extent, Gothitelle-based ones) have a much easier time setting up more quickly. They don't have to run as many Trainers like Communication– LAss should be enough. It sets the opponent back almost a turn, which is almost as ridiculous as our new first-turn T/S/S rule.
 
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